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Old 20-09-2017, 07:40 PM
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Question "Sarcasm"...Huh?

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Was more interested in a further explanation of this. not your sarcasm -_-

Huh? Shivatar, you appear to be bent out of shape "sarcasm" and I have no idea why you taking this stance.

It appears to me that you have taken offense unnecessarily{ without due cause }.

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Old 21-09-2017, 02:24 AM
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Ignorance can be a really hurtful word when used like that -_-

Sorry this wasn't directed at you it was just an honest thought xD
I was mostly just thinking If you look at the world with untainted eyes your gonna end up nihilistic and basically do nothing productive or even care?
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Old 21-09-2017, 02:30 AM
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Finite = having integrity

Infinite = non-integral

This is probably the best explanation ever xD
Basically things fall apart in the realms of infinity
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Old 21-09-2017, 01:44 PM
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Smile Real > Reality > Realm

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This is probably the best explanation ever xD
Basically things fall apart in the realms of infinity

Realm is probably not the best word to use as it does not real-ly correlate to infinite. That is because there exists only two types or scenarios involving infinite.

1} Macro-infinite non-occupied space, and,

2} metaphysical-1, mind/intellect/concepts of infinite ex concept of infinite set of numbers, apples, dogs, peanuts, fermions, bosones etc.

Real = real estate{ ex land }

Real = physical/energy ^v /\/\/


Real = fermions, bosons and aggregate collection thereof. imo

Real = occupied space 'things' that which we can quantise ergo observe via a finite measurement.

Real > Reality > Realm

https://nortonsafe.search.ask.com/we...doi=2017-09-17



Realm

a royal domain; kingdom: the realm of England.


2.

the region, sphere, or domain within which anything occurs, prevails, or dominates: the realm of dreams.



3.

the special province or field of something or someone:
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Old 21-09-2017, 07:18 PM
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The idea of non duality is a trick to trap us.

The only people I hear say they dont beleive in duality are the people who do f_ed up sht.

This is the realm of cause and effect
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Old 21-09-2017, 09:14 PM
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Sorry this wasn't directed at you it was just an honest thought xD
I was mostly just thinking If you look at the world with untainted eyes your gonna end up nihilistic and basically do nothing productive or even care?

There's always the possibility.

I hear a lot of people go through stages of ego inflation wherein they believe they've had a mystical experience and believe they are looking at the world with untainted eyes but it's not true. A lot of times what happens is a person has a partial awakening, or a full awakening for a short period of time, and mistakes that for the real thing (which is similar in intensity and effect, but lasts longer and is more stable).
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Old 21-09-2017, 09:24 PM
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Huh? Shivatar, you appear to be bent out of shape "sarcasm" and I have no idea why you taking this stance.

It appears to me that you have taken offense unnecessarily{ without due cause }.

r6

I would never tell someone who asked me a direct question to go look elsewhere, then come back to me to continue the conversation at a later point.

It's just rude. Maybe not where you are from but where I'm from it is.

And the words, having, integrity, finite.... do you honestly think I don't know what those words mean?

HAVING? you really think I don't know what the word HAVING means?

then you have the gall to tell me that I'm bent out of shape over nothing...

you basically tried to treat me as if I have a 5th graders intelligence, just because I asked you to put your ideas into a more simplistic form.



I wanted to know why you think what you do, and that would have came from a conversation.
If I wanted to know what you think, I could have simply looked up the terms.
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Old 22-09-2017, 02:54 AM
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Libra, you have a differrent approach from most Love that signature. r6

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The idea of non duality is a trick to trap us.
The only people I hear say they dont beleive in duality are the people who do f_ed up sht.
This is the realm of cause and effect
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Old 22-09-2017, 04:03 AM
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I have been trying to gather my thoughts enough to make a coherent reply to this one.

Duality and Non-Duality are both subjectively and perceptually experiential.

From Non-Duality the Duality issues forth and also through Duality, Non-Duality can be found as the primal impetus.

The only way I can explain it, is by reverting back and falling back on my tantric teachings.

Shiva manifests as Shakti, yet only through Shakti is Shiva known.

This means that Duality is as much a part of Non-Duality as Non-Duality is a part of Duality.

In the end, they totally negate each other in the awareness of the absolute, which is neither Dual or Non-Dual as that which transcends its own non-existence becomes the very essence of existence itself.

The entire conundrum of descriptive vernacular dissolves within the actualisation of state-specificity.
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