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Old 21-12-2016, 06:54 PM
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This is interesting because the Son of Man might signify the Higher Self of every soul that exists; our perfect spirit-self we had with God from eternity.


this I seem to find also , most interesting you wrote that down
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Old 21-12-2016, 07:11 PM
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the Son of Man might signify the Higher Self of every soul that exists
That is exactly what it signifies. The 'birth of the baby' represents the birth of higher-self understanding in humanity. The higher-self son of the lower-self man.
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Old 21-12-2016, 07:26 PM
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It is said that all spirits were created in the beginning from God and with God.

But there is also an entity in the Israelite Scriptures that speak of "the second YHWH". Dr. Michael Heiser goes into more detail. He is a PHD Scholar in linguistics and Bible study. There is also an entity called "Son of Man" in Daniel's and Enoch's visions who sits on a throne. Daniel even says this Son of Man is the future messiah but in Enoch's vision it is both the messiah and his own future self.

This is interesting because the Son of Man might signify the Higher Self of every soul that exists; our perfect spirit-self we had with God from eternity.

There is also someone called "God's Firstborn Son" and "God's only Begotten Son" etc.

From what I gather all of us are unique and one of a kind. But we all share the same essence of being Spirit. We are all spirits with a unique personality and individuality. But before we came into existence and conscious awareness; God who is Absolute, Beingness itself, and Divine Force Itself desired to be Known, desired to become Self-aware, and to Love. God is not just Love but the Act of Love Itself. Thus there never was a time God wasn't Love. And because God is Love Itself there came about eternally from the Father-Mother Person, a second Person who is the receiver of that Love and the Love of the Father-Mother. The first Spirit being to come into existence, eternally projected from the Father-Mother Divine Power is the first Child of God. This entity was perfect and the Light from Light. God saw Godself in that Entity and Loved all that God saw and desired to share that Love with Many. And from the pattern of that Perfect Creation of the first Child there came to be all of us.

St. Paul says "the first Adam was earthly, but the second Adam was spiritual". He also says the second Adam is in fact the first. He means that Jesus Christ was the spiritual heavenly Adam but the physical human Adam was in fact only an Adam for the physical realm.

The Soul Jesus may have incarnated as a Man among the human race 2,000 years ago not making him the literal first human, but he was the first Man who was Fully Human due to his compassion and love. Thus the second Adam was always the Firstborn. This Spirit-entity manifests and appears in a realm, world, or dimension anytime his personality and knowledge is needed. This entity has also evolved in older worlds and learned all He has needed to know. He is a special messenger and agent of God who even though he was perfect with God from the beginning chose to be completely human. Becoming a complete human he had to learn and grow to be a Way for others. But within he had full access to the Godhead since he Himself was a part of that Godhead from the beginning when he was begotten as the First Soul out of God the Father/Mother; the first one to receive God's Love, the Love of God himself.

Whenever this Soul incarnates, manifests, or appears before a race, group, dominion, dimension or whichever He/She reveals the full nature of the Divine and what love is. That is this Soul's purpose. That is why the Mystics in the Old Testament scriptures called this entity "the second Yahweh". He is our Elder Brother, Savior, and Revealer of God's Love.

Yes, it goes further though; it is much more immense-- Because the bible is nonlinear, and so the conflict that arises comes from linear minds interpreting non-linear data--

That is to say, until the son is as fixed as our sun, not even our sun would last forever; that is we await his true position, but that true position is not even yet revealed, and is beyond comprehension of most Christians in a certain sense, because it will be something of a universal figure, and thus cannot be considered complete, unless he reveals the truth of ALL things and not just the christian word, which is the word before the word is made flesh, or more specifically, the word made flesh before the voice that spoke the word is made flesh might be a better phrase--
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Old 21-12-2016, 07:28 PM
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That is exactly what it signifies. The 'birth of the baby' represents the birth of higher-self understanding in humanity. The higher-self son of the lower-self man.


Same concept refined into one specific figure-- Like the universe coming in upon itself, the higher self of the universe which is the same thing in different degrees in all places this occurs-- That is the son of the universe will essentially be the complete manifestation of what we all have within us; however more importantly, allows us to become something ELSE-- Don't ask for freedom and that demand everyone be in the same boat-- For our higher selves to be different, we must know what the highest self is--

Also this does not cast aside the divine feminine; that is the part left in the shadows, the missing piece to make sense of it all-- Lilith, which is sophias shadow in the greater light-- The misaligned order of relations--
It is already hinted at that the feminine is of utmost importance in relations--
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Old 21-12-2016, 07:48 PM
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That is exactly what it signifies. The 'birth of the baby' represents the birth of higher-self understanding in humanity. The higher-self son of the lower-self man.

yes makes sense its the start of the Grand Gallery in the giza pyramid in the time line of human evolution
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Old 21-12-2016, 07:54 PM
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yes makes sense its the start of the Grand Gallery in the giza pyramid in the time line of human evolution

I have been in the giza pyramid myself. I never seen a Grand Gallery overthere. But they have discovered hidden chambers in the pyramid. So they might be overthere.

I think we are on to something.
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Old 21-12-2016, 07:56 PM
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yes makes sense its the start of the Grand Gallery in the giza pyramid in the time line of human evolution
Yes exactly, very nice! To see and understand human soul-spirit progression, mirrored in humanity's physical-material expressions throughout the ages: architecture, art, music, literature, etc.
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Old 21-12-2016, 08:37 PM
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Yes exactly, very nice! To see and understand human soul-spirit progression, mirrored in humanity's physical-material expressions throughout the ages: architecture, art, music, literature, etc.

and the best time is about now and what comes next few years
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Old 21-12-2016, 09:04 PM
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I find that a bit funny. What about the Big Bang?
Where did all souls live before the Big Bang?

I can answer that. Whatever differences we had let's just set them aside because you are asking very good questions.

We are from before this environment living outside of this environment with bodies in a place we call, "everything." I've written about this before which was something we discussed with other members at the time but the moderators have made looking at my thread and post history private, take it up with them why they control this place now. (I assume they are fake accounts as well).

Now, to get a sense of Everything read Alice in Wonderland by a Mathematician who was remembering everything in visions and dreams. Only there was not danger there, it was just innocent immoral. That's it. No violence because our bodies in Everything didn't feel pain or hurt and were perfect, as Lewis Carroll describes. It was just innocent immoral. Here is a previous post I write proving the Math of always being which is getting published, and proving we always were with our Soul Mates or as Socrates called us Twin Flames. It was perfect in Everything but not ideal in that we were innocent immoral.

Spiritual Mathematics of Always being, there is no such thing as nothing.

http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...ht=Mathematics

Mathematics of our Twin Flames as Socrates Described:

http://www.spiritualforums.com/vb/sh...ht=Mathematics


What happened in Everything, which is Everything is that certain people were plagues by a concept of beginning and end. They knew we always were, but they were afraid there was a beginning we did not remember and that one day there will be an end. Since everything was perfect, they designed this Environment to manifest imperfections so that we would understand their pain and concerns. They gave us the illusion of birth and death so we feel their pain. It's just untrue and it is over, we all go to Heaven which is a place above Everything where we are closer to God and Goddess (being Twin Flames themselves). It is paradise. Sports, Learning, Fun, Hedonism, Religion all go on in Heaven. And it's just not us it is the whole Universe as well.

Why were we always? Well if you are a Student of Socrates you know he talked about ideas never dying and always being. We are the embodiment of ideas, the body of ideas and all their shades, with our Twin Flame being our lover and our counter-point in this perfect. So, we always were and always will be. With God and Goddess being the embodiment of Perfect Ideas, which we are being guided to come.

This place was a detour where many got stuck. Now, it is over. We came for the people left behind. All, all will go to Heaven and All are in Heaven. Everything is still there but when they are ready to go to Heaven, they will be born in Heaven as our children. The only reason we are born in Heaven is to prepare for the day that Everything gives birth to Everything, they will have a beginning but will always be. If there is an evolution of ideas it is when Everything gives birth to Everything.

Well, reply back if you want to know more. This is the stuff the real members and I would talk about. It is beautiful and perfect and any imperfection is an illusion.

Be careful on this message board there are many Murders on it now, they call themselves atheists or Christians but they are just disturbed.
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Old 21-12-2016, 09:35 PM
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Here is some evidence to provide you with, develop the Telepathy and it will all make more sense.

Here is Psalm 82:

PSALM 82
1
God takes a stand in the divine council, (false gods)
gives judgment in the midst of the gods.

2
“How long will you judge unjustly
and favor the cause of the wicked?
Selah
3
“[When Will you] Defend the lowly and fatherless;
render justice to the afflicted and needy.
4
Rescue the lowly and poor;
deliver them from the hand of the wicked.”c
II
5
*The gods neither know nor understand,
wandering about in darkness,
and all the world’s foundations shake.
6
I declare: “Gods though you be,*d
offspring of the Most High all of you,
7
Yet like any mortal you shall die;
like any prince you shall fall.”
8
Arise, O God, judge the earth,*
for yours are all the nations.


The false Gods that created this place have been fought and judged, they too are in Heaven being our brothers and sisters from Everything. I copy and pasted this from my Bible but remember People, not Gods, are trying to wipe out History again. So, hold onto your Bible before they try to change the whole thing. They have done it before.

Blessed Pope Francis Acknowledging Goddess before leaving:

Here is Blessed Pope Francis acknowledging Goddess on Oct. 9th before he was transported to Heaven with someone now pretending to be him:

Do a search on Twitter Pope Francis Oct. 9th

Oct. 9th
We Christians have a Mother, the same Mother that Jesus had; we have a Father, the same as Jesus. We are not orphans!

I reply to Him about Goddess and he replies back:

Oct. 9th
Our Lady also wants to bring the great gift of Jesus to us all; and with him she brings us his love, his peace, and his joy.








Penn Jillette Becomes Christian Through our Telepathy Conversations


Then the real miracle is Penn Jilette opening up and becoming a real Christian. We worked with him telepathically and I always recommended Buddhism for him but when he saw and met the Apostles and the REAL Christ he became Christian. Here is the Youtube video where he shows his conversion. Remember, he created the ** series saying the Bible was **. He is a sensible man, now that he knows Heaven is Paradise why wouldn't he have Faith. With some Atheist seeing the miracles but rejecting Heaven because the think it will be dull. It is not.

https://whyevolutionistrue.wordpress...-islamophobia/


There was a Youtube video very good of his but it has been scrubbed in favor of his Atheists videos. But the article talks about that video which has been scrubbed. This is the reality of the time, people not false gods, wiping out miracles. More will happen but we will be here.
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