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Old 19-07-2011, 02:27 PM
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Greetings..

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I have observed from interacting with you that your thinking is based more on emotion than reason. So I don't think we will be able to have a productive dialogue.

Be Well.
Of course.. you have no valid rebuttal, so retreat.. i bid you farewell..
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Old 19-07-2011, 03:52 PM
Topology
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God has given us the knowledge of how to come out of ignorance. If we simply chant the Names of God, we will get the experience.

Is chanting the names of God the only way to get the experience?

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Same answer by chanting you will have gnosis.

Is chanting the only way to Gnosis?

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True, it is self-evident but confidential at the same time.
"This confidential knowledge may not be explained to those who are not austere, or devoted, or engaged in devotional service, nor to one who is envious of Me." Bg 18.67
Rationality is absolute 1+1=2 is rational 1+1=3 is irrational. It is not simply a matter of opinion. Just because someone thinks something is rational doesn't make it rational.

1+1=2 is something we learned. There are axioms (assumptions) which entail the behavior. If we use a different set of axioms or assumptions, we would get a different symbolic behavior. So what appears to be rational is completely determined by our assumptions (axioms). In the argument over what are the correct or proper assumptions, it is not a rational debate. The debate is based on intuition, which axioms feel more intuitively right.
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Old 19-07-2011, 09:49 PM
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intuitive insights tend to be interpreted in terms of one's mind conditioning. a hindu will almost always certainly understands and speaks about these insights in terms of its own belief system.
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Old 21-07-2011, 01:07 PM
I-Ching
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Is chanting the names of God the only way to get the experience?
No bhakti yoga has 8 limbs hearing, chanting, praying, Deity worship, remembering, becoming an intimate friend, an intimate servant, and surrendering everything.


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1+1=2 is something we learned. There are axioms (assumptions) which entail the behavior. If we use a different set of axioms or assumptions, we would get a different symbolic behavior. So what appears to be rational is completely determined by our assumptions (axioms). In the argument over what are the correct or proper assumptions, it is not a rational debate. The debate is based on intuition, which axioms feel more intuitively right.
Some axioms are true and some are not. Reality doesn't change to suit our axioms.
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Old 14-09-2011, 08:57 PM
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What is that i ching?
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