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04-11-2010, 05:25 AM
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Pathfinder
Join Date: Oct 2010
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cause and effect ?
Hi I have another Advaita question; everything is made of
oneness/nothingness, so there is nothing separate to create cause and effect
so how is it that sometimes we get what we want without putting any effort
into it ? example:
I really wanted a particular motorbike (Suzuki GSX-R 750) but I had no
possibility of buying one - completely unexpectedly my boyfriend comes into
some money and buys me one . How and why does this happen ?
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04-11-2010, 08:37 AM
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Experiencer
Join Date: Oct 2010
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I'm rather puzzled as to why you are asking Advaita questions in the Buddhism section, GSXR-girl.
Advaita is Hindu philosophy and not Buddhism.
see at link..
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Advaita_Vedanta
With metta
Samana
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04-11-2010, 09:15 AM
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Pathfinder
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 65
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Hi Samana
I wasn't sure where to post, am I right in thinking both Buddhism and Hinduism
have their origins in the Vedic Teachings , the same as Advaita ?
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04-11-2010, 09:24 AM
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In fact both are different religions and different paths in point of fact and yet both lead us to the same state.
Once we reach our destinations the paths become unnecessary.
There are superficial difference but at the heart both have the same thing ot say and lead to enlightenment
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04-11-2010, 11:04 AM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GSX-R girl
so how is it that sometimes we get what we want without putting any effort into it ?
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The flowers get a good full dose of (rain) water without any effort.
Then again on the other side of the planet it might be very dry,
without rain for days and the plant life has to make a lot of effort to stay alive.
The only differnce in both situations is that the flower has no mind trying to work it out,
it's just life happening in that way...
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04-11-2010, 11:20 AM
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Cause and effect are only in your mind. Neither really exists. Things just happen. The money your boyfriend got did not cause him to buy the bike, it just enabled him to buy it.
Correlation is not causation.
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04-11-2010, 01:24 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GSX-R girl
Hi I have another Advaita question; everything is made of
oneness/nothingness, so there is nothing separate to create cause and effect
so how is it that sometimes we get what we want without putting any effort
into it ? example:
I really wanted a particular motorbike (Suzuki GSX-R 750) but I had no
possibility of buying one - completely unexpectedly my boyfriend comes into
some money and buys me one . How and why does this happen ?
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Every action causes an effect whether it's done by deed, inner thought or spoken out loud. Your boyfriend's actions of buying the bike caused the effect of you being given the bike and making you happy in the process. :)
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04-11-2010, 01:53 PM
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Pathfinder
Join Date: Oct 2010
Posts: 65
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Elijah
The flowers get a good full dose of (rain) water without any effort.
Then again on the other side of the planet it might be very dry,
without rain for days and the plant life has to make a lot of effort to stay alive.
The only differnce in both situations is that the flower has no mind trying to work it out,
it's just life happening in that way...
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I was thinking there was no way I could get the bike so I wasn't unhappy
about it, just that it would be nice to have one - so maybe the detachment
to the outcome made it possible ? where as some other girl who wanted
one didn't get her bike ?
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04-11-2010, 02:54 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by GSX-R girl
I was thinking there was no way I could get the bike so I wasn't unhappy about it,
just that it would be nice to have one
so maybe the detachment to the outcome made it possible ?
where as some other girl who wanted one didn't get her bike ?
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The fact that you got the bike is just the way life has expressed in that instance.
The other girl, if that happened in that way, is just life happening in that way.
The mind can try and project all sorts of reasons/purpose/theroies etc.
But these are only theroies about what IS, and ultimately none of them are true, they are simply interpretations.
At the end of the day nothing happens because..... (such and such a theory) it just happens that way.
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22-12-2010, 07:38 AM
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Knower
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: Canada
Posts: 121
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Elijah
At the end of the day nothing happens because..... (such and such a theory) it just happens that way.
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This is true. When i throw a rock into some water ripples form. One could theorize that the rock had an effect on the water causing it to ripple. Isn't it just simply that when rocks are thrown into water ripples form?
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