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Old 23-09-2018, 09:38 AM
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In spiritually aware civilisations (such as on other planets), everything is shared with everybody all of the time. But in unawakened societies, people usually do not do that, so that they only share in limited ways.
Awakened societies achieve a balance between Nature and technology, but unaware humans usually do the opposite.
Highly evolved beings never compete with one another, unlike those in unawakened societies.
Concepts such as punishment, insufficiency and ownership are never embraced by people in awakened civilisations.
In contrast with unawakened beings, those who are awakened never allow themselves to do harm to the environment that supports them.
Interesting because you're discussing a benign kind of communism - one that doesn't need an oppressive administration. From what I hear, the 1960s/70s inspired such movements and they were quickly suppressed by the establishment. The problem is needing leadership particularly to deal with environmental change. Your vision doesn't encourage enterprise nor personal expression as in creativity. I recall a certain USSR composer who escaped because he was not allowed to write music to express himself: it didn't meet the "socially realistic" criteria laid out by the executive. He got embroiled in embittered arguments about "what I do is all right for export but not home use."

Intellectual and creative enquiry are therefore impossible. So you end up with mediocrity. The "shared orientations" become fixed so changes enforced by conditions are almost impossible without one or more members taking the initiative...leading to politics. It's almost impossible to "be individual" without non-conforming - which leads to the need for judgement and censure. And so...any tribe or community is back to where we are today.

A conceivably unchanging, totally sharing society may well exist elsewhere but it generally isn't within the human scope. We're too aware of our individuality. Enclaves do exist here often reliant on acquiescence to decisions from internal councils but I wouldn't hold my breath that they could be extended across the planet.
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Old 23-09-2018, 09:47 AM
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There is a soul progression: instincts, emotions, intellect, intuition... Each soul's level of evolvement places its principal focus somewhere on this scale, with a range of secondary focus that spans bellow and above.

Hence the reason for which we are here is to learn to master our instincts and emotions, while developing our intellect, and starting to develop our intuition.

Humans are all over the place in this process, and their experiences are inherently different.

Ideal, advanced, civilizations as you describe look like idle steps on which the souls that achieved progress stagnate. So they don't exist in a continuously evolving multidimensional universe.

...it's a process.
Exceptional points and inspired insights. Lifts this dialogue to a whole other level if anyone cares to take that soul-spirit investigative leap.
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Old 23-09-2018, 04:18 PM
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You can also say that about some of the cultures we have on this Earth.

For instance with the Eastern cultures that have given us the impetus for a lot of what we talk about on this forum, essentially how to live properly on this Earth while remaining in spiritual/emotional balance.

If you look at how those cultures live, they are certainly more "in balance" with nature than we in the West.
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Old 09-10-2018, 08:22 AM
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In spiritually aware civilisations (such as on other planets), everything is shared with everybody all of the time. But in unawakened societies, people usually do not do that, so that they only share in limited ways.
Awakened societies achieve a balance between Nature and technology, but unaware humans usually do the opposite.
Highly evolved beings never compete with one another, unlike those in unawakened societies.
Concepts such as punishment, insufficiency and ownership are never embraced by people in awakened civilisations.
In contrast with unawakened beings, those who are awakened never allow themselves to do harm to the environment that supports them.
In the ancient days, according to pre deluvian historical records, civilizations were more advanced and in touch with everything around them...The Atlanteans, the Lemurians, Some of the indigenous peoples of "Western Countries" there was the Indus Valley Civilisation, Cuzco in Peru, Ankor Wat in Cambodia...There is evidence of integrated and harmonious societies all over the world.
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Old 09-10-2018, 10:04 AM
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A "spiritually aware civilization" is an oxymoron.
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Old 09-10-2018, 08:10 PM
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A "spiritually aware civilization" is an oxymoron.

This is the kind of probably well meant post that can escalate into an argument, because its sententious tone. Back it up with an explanation! You didn't even quote the post you're replying to.

"Spiritually aware civilization" isn't an oxymoron. A civilization may, or may not, be aware that there is more than the physical world we live in. Isn't it?
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