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Old 13-07-2011, 05:29 PM
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Here's another link, a little off topic but connected.
http://xenophilius.wordpress.com/201...ncient-aliens/
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Old 30-07-2011, 01:11 PM
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The Book of Ezekiel

In the Book of Ezekiel, part of the Hebrew bible, a prophet has a vision of a flying vessel accompanied by fire, smoke and a loud noise. Some ancient alien theorists have argued that the vehicle’s design closely mirrors that of a modern spaceship. Rather than a divine intervention, then, perhaps the text describes an early encounter between humans and alien astronauts.
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Old 30-07-2011, 01:14 PM
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http://www.history.com/shows/ancient...ancient-aliens
Click the above link to see the pictures.

Ancient alien theorists like Erich von Däniken believe that, thousands of years ago, extraterrestrials landed on Earth, where they were hailed as gods and helped shape human civilization. But what proof could possibly exist for such an encounter? Proponents of the theory point to two types of evidence: ancient religious texts and physical specimens such as cave drawings, stone sculptures and pyramids. Is your curiosity piqued? Here’s a quick introduction to some of the most famous examples.

The Nazca Lines in Nazca Desert, Peru.
The Nazca Lines

Etched into a high plateau in Peru’s Nazca Desert, a series of ancient designs stretching more than 50 miles has baffled archaeologists for decades. Along with simple lines and geometric shapes, they include drawings of animals, birds and humans, some measuring more than 600 feet across. Because of their colossal size, the figures can only be appreciated from way up in the air—and there is no evidence that the Nazca people, who inhabited the area between 300 B.C. and 800 A.D., invented flying machines. According to ancient alien theorists, the figures were used to guide spaceships as they came in for a landing, and the lines served as runways.

Mythical flying machines
Vimanas

Many Sanskrit epics, which were written in India more than two millennia ago, contain references to mythical flying machines called vimanas. Pointing to similarities between descriptions of vimanas and reports by people who claim to have seen UFOs, ancient alien theorists have suggested that astronauts from other planets visited India during ancient times.

Maoi, giant hunman figures
The Moai of Easter Island

The Polynesian island of Easter Island is famous for its “maoi”: the 887 giant human figures with enormous heads that guard its coastline. Roughly 500 years old, these monolithic statues stand 13 feet high and weigh 14 tons, but some are twice as tall and much heavier. How could human beings without sophisticated tools or knowledge of engineering craft and transport such incredible structures? Some ancient alien theorists believe it is the work of visiting extraterrestrials who left their mark on the island.

Puma Punku a field of stone ruins
Puma Punku

Located in the Bolivian highlands, Puma Punku is a field of stone ruins scattered with giant, finely carved blocks. Such precise workmanship on a massive scale would have been nearly impossible without modern tools and machines, yet the ruins are more than 1,000 years old. Ancient alien theorists have hypothesized that extraterrestrials with advanced engineering techniques created the site or advised the people who built it.

book of ezekiel
The Book of Ezekiel

In the Book of Ezekiel, part of the Hebrew bible, a prophet has a vision of a flying vessel accompanied by fire, smoke and a loud noise. Some ancient alien theorists have argued that the vehicle’s design closely mirrors that of a modern spaceship. Rather than a divine intervention, then, perhaps the text describes an early encounter between humans and alien astronauts.

Pacal's Sarcophagus
Pacal’s Sarcophagus

Pacal the Great ruled over the Mayan city of Palenque, in what is now southern Mexico, during the seventh century. Upon his death, he was buried inside a pyramid called the Temple of Inscriptions. The intricately carved lid of his sarcophagus has become a classic work of Mayan art—and an oft-cited piece of evidence for ancient alien theorists. In their view, Pacal is pictured in a spaceship during takeoff, with his hand on a control panel, his foot on a pedal and an oxygen tube in his mouth.
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Old 30-07-2011, 02:15 PM
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First of all if someone was killed in an atomic blast. They would be vaporized and turned into natural particles. There would not be any skeleton. Atomic bombs when it goes off is hotter than the surface of the sun. It vaporizes anyone and anything. Fires would be everywhere you look. Showers of atomic rain will come down. There would no be any evidence of ancient atomic bombs going off. Except that which is outside of the initial blast zone.

First of all:

You ONLY get vaporized if u are close...REALLY REALLY close by a nuclear blast (10 - 1500 meter depends on the Yield) after that the temperatures and pressures decrease rapidly.

Outside the fireball (which is about 1,3 km in size by a VERY large hydrogene bomb) The temperatures are about 5000 degrees for about 20 seconds which also depends on the Bomb used. The pressure is around 20 PSI also for around 20 seconds.

People always exegerate the short term effects of Nuclear Weapons. The Long term effects far exceed the Kill ratio.

What this effects in particular do and how they interact is another story. But Nuclear weapons are not as Powerful as people make them out to be.

For example. There where several of people in Hiroshima who survived the blast. Those where just 200 meters away from the Point of detonation.


For evidence. its quite simple to determine if a nuclear weapon exploded. Even after a very very long time.


But if we are talking Fantasy, well then everything is possible.
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Old 30-07-2011, 05:39 PM
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Surprised to see von Daniken mentioned again. He was debunked a lifetime ago.
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Hahahahah... Let me guess... you are watching the Ancient Aliens Series available on Instant Watch through Netflix?

I have to agree they bring up some interesting stuff. But you have to be prepared to do your homework. They are not a reliable reporting source. I have seen many topic discussed where they leave out the fact that would disprove their theory. As in the Aliens Harvesting animal parts, The moon being Hollow and used as a space station for extraterrestrials, The rock structures at the top of some mountain being ancient carvings... honestly if you have ever toured a cave or been on a driving tour of Sedona you know that is just natural occurring rock structures and nothing more fantastic than playing "That cloud looks like..." same as the fantastic rock structures that in the ocean off the coast of Japan in which they left out the footage of the surrounding coast line which reveals the natural erosion patterns of the rocks were exactly as that were under the water. That one of them thought they saw what looked like the carving of a Native American Indian Head is again just the game of "That cloud looks like a dinosaur".

Remember this? What they thought was a carving of a face on Mars, turned out to be nothing more that a hill.



What is certain is the town was abandoned. There is radioactivity, there were unscavenged skeletons, there was interesting phenomena of rocks turning to glass. The truth is we can't explain it. It is no more logical to travel down the road of an ancient Atomic bomb. Just compile the evidence and maybe one day we will find an explanation.

I remember about 10 years ago in California a fireball came shooting through the sky above the pacific it was only briefly reported on the news and within a couple weeks people were told to stay out of the water as it was making people sick. What ever it was must have disintegrated at least for the most part before impact hence the lack of a tidal wave. But it effected the waters on the California coast for a while after that.

Couldn't this have been the same sort of phenomenon occurring over a populated land mass?

At any rate if it is Extra Terrestrials you are wanting to believe in. You might find some comfort in knowing it is widely accepted in the arena of human space travelers that there are Alien Space craft out there. They have been reported by various reputable person. When traveling into space they are considered a rather common place occurrence.

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=N0S4M_aFYCM

http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=9O5uuw-2WmQ

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/59248/NASA_STS_77__Astronaut_Reports_Ufo/

http://www.disclose.tv/action/viewvideo/46067/Apollo_Astronaut__UFO_s_Exist/
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Old 03-08-2011, 12:17 AM
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Vaporization Depends On How Close One Is To Blast

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First of all if someone was killed in an atomic blast. They would be vaporized and turned into natural particles. There would not be any skeleton.

Whether or not one is vaporized depends on how close one was to the blast. One can get fatal radiation poisoning as well as other types of fatal injuries & not be vaporized or even immediately killed. In Japan during WWII many sustained these types of injuries at Hiroshima.
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Old 03-08-2011, 12:22 AM
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Eric von Daniken's Missteps Are Very Minor

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Surprised to see von Daniken mentioned again. He was debunked a lifetime ago.

Eric von Daniken has discussed how he didn’t used rigorous research methods in the book he wrote, sometimes using second hand information. He also notes that in Germany this type of book isn’t held to using the same rigorous standards that would be applied w/ writing a scientific paper.

That a few issues were found w/ a few pieces of von Daniken’s information doesn’t discredit the rest of his work. What he is saying has been said by MANY others.

There will still be naysayers about this when our governments have set up public & official diplomatic relations w/ ETs.

There are many such books that are written about how humanity developed exploring various theories. The ones that are really problematic IMO are the ones that insist the entire planet is only about 6000 years old.
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Old 03-08-2011, 12:55 AM
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002 cents - Ya, im half serious here FYI. But i see jesus in the second image of the mars face LOL. The top of his head is at 7 oclock. LOL ( i sort of see a face, but its that, "seeing what your familiar with" thing. LOL

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n the Book of Ezekiel, part of the Hebrew bible, a prophet has a vision of a flying vessel accompanied by fire, smoke and a loud noise. Some ancient alien theorists have argued that the vehicle’s design closely mirrors that of a modern spaceship. Rather than a divine intervention, then, perhaps the text describes an early encounter between humans and alien astronauts.

Doesnt that sound alot more like an asteroid impact or ariel burst?
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Old 03-08-2011, 02:17 AM
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Haha... You know if you look around you can find lots of evidence for a Monolith we discovered on Mars's Moon.

As far as your quote it does sound very much like an asteroid.

Have you watched any of the "Ancient Aliens" series? I watched much of it before I canceled Netflix.

They bring up some very interesting points that can not be explained with our current understanding of Ancient Knowledge. And while I am willing to believe that Aliens may have been present in that time as they are today, I don't quite make the hurdle when they start making leaps and bounds to connect the dots to "Ancient Aliens". I just don't see the all of the points they mention as irrefutable evidence I see it as fanatical speculation. At times it is like watching someone who has 5 or 6 pieces of a 1000 piece puzzle trying to create an image of what the entire puzzle would look like based off the 5 - 6 pieces.

Why people are so uncomfortable dealing in terms of the "Unknown" is beyond me. It is like at some point history and scientific knowledge were the equivalent of some Mad-Lib game gone terribly awry.
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