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08-02-2011, 07:10 PM
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Originally Posted by Internal Queries
what do you know that is, beyond all doubt, true?
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This Moment. |
08-02-2011, 07:49 PM
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My house is a mess and I need to clean it lol....
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04-03-2011, 03:41 PM
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Originally Posted by Internal Queries
what do you know that is, beyond all doubt, true?
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I am here! |
05-03-2011, 05:15 PM
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The only person I can truly count on is myself.
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05-03-2011, 05:58 PM
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Originally Posted by Internal Queries
what do you know that is, beyond all doubt, true?
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Absolutely nothing. I have some strong opinions, some well-developed ideas, but nothing is beyond doubt. IMHO, the idea that one has found the TRUTH is the height of arrogance and hubris. I find even the idea that I could find TRUTH horribly disheartening; it would mean there would be a point at which I would stop discovering wonderful new ideas about my world.
BLLEEEEAAACHH! Not for me!
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05-03-2011, 06:12 PM
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Originally Posted by Internal Queries
alrighty then and thanks for your replies. i guess i'm trying to build a "sanity gauge", some way to get a bead on "reality", what is acceptable as real and true, a consensus of sorts to measure against my own experiences and mental abberations. i try so hard to be self honest and to keep my self observations as objective as possible so i don't trust any of it to be "real". i was just wondering how other folks manage to judge the truth of their beliefs systems and the reality of their psy experiences.
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Good lord, why would you ever want a "consensus" on what is "acceptable"?! "Real" and "true" and "sane" are all relative ideas, self-created concepts based upon your preferences. That which is "real" is what you make "real". That which is "true" is what you decide is "true" That which is "sane" is most definitely based on your own definitions of sanity.
You have experiences. You look at them and decide what they mean, relative to your values, ideas, and preferences. If you want to call them real and true and sane, so be it. If you want to call them fake and false and crazy, so be that too. You decide. Always.
And yes, that does mean that you can allow others to define an "acceptable consensus", if you want. As long as you realize that you are still the one making the decision to accept their ideas.
CS
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05-03-2011, 06:15 PM
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Originally Posted by Blaze
I am here!
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Who is "I"?
What is "am"?
Where is "here"?
Just wondering. 
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05-03-2011, 07:19 PM
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Master
Join Date: Dec 2010
Location: near London
Posts: 1,673
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That no-thing can be known yet there is knowing.
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05-03-2011, 07:37 PM
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Originally Posted by CuriousSnowflake
Who is "I"?
What is "am"?
Where is "here"?
Just wondering.
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I am Me!
I am me and this is here!
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05-03-2011, 07:37 PM
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Master
Join Date: Nov 2010
Posts: 1,734
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Originally Posted by CuriousSnowflake
Absolutely nothing. I have some strong opinions, some well-developed ideas, but nothing is beyond doubt. IMHO, the idea that one has found the TRUTH is the height of arrogance and hubris. I find even the idea that I could find TRUTH horribly disheartening; it would mean there would be a point at which I would stop discovering wonderful new ideas about my world.
BLLEEEEAAACHH! Not for me!
CS
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you dont believe it possible that there is anything beyond Truth??? that there are no new things to discover?? even that is an assumption isnt it? therefore, i respectfully disagree~! 
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"Not Christian or Jew or Muslim, not Hindu, Buddhist, Sufi, or Zen. Not any religion or cultural system. I am not from the East or the West, not out of the ocean or up from the ground, not natural or ethereal, not composed of elements at all... I belong to the Beloved, have seen the two worlds as one and that one call to and know, first, last, outer, inner, only that breath breathing human being."
Rumi
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