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Old 28-08-2019, 07:55 AM
Bhavani Bhavani is offline
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Medication and awakening

HI. A couple of bits of the body aren't working properly.
A light dose of 2 meds restores functionality and vastly improves quality of life.
As they are pharmaceuticals they alter me somehow.
People take plants to assist a journey.
What does anyone have to say about pharma ?
I don't want it to get in the way of experiencing what is. I don't necessarily want to make the experience of life easier if that will mean I become less focused on the way out of suffering.
Yet I also know that as long as there is an I asking. ..there is an assumption of doership.
So what is one to do !!!
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Old 28-08-2019, 08:58 PM
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I avoid pharmaceuticals whenever possible. Studies have shown that they do not work for everyone, and the possible side-effects put me off. Natural remedies such as herbs or homoeopathy may work more slowly but they are more harmonious for the body.

At the same time, there is no virtue in unnecessary suffering. If the body is not fully functioning then it becomes more of a hindrance.

As a generalisation, pharmaceuticals deal with symptoms and natural remedies deal with causes. So maybe take pharmaceuticals as a short-term fix for the symptoms while using natural remedies as a long-term treatment for the underlying causes.

This will not prevent you experiencing what is. What is simply is.

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Old 29-08-2019, 10:13 PM
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@iamthat thank you.
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Old 30-08-2019, 05:56 AM
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Originally Posted by Bhavani
HI. A couple of bits of the body aren't working properly.
A light dose of 2 meds restores functionality and vastly improves quality of life.
As they are pharmaceuticals they alter me somehow.
People take plants to assist a journey.
What does anyone have to say about pharma ?
I don't want it to get in the way of experiencing what is. I don't necessarily want to make the experience of life easier if that will mean I become less focused on the way out of suffering.
Yet I also know that as long as there is an I asking. ..there is an assumption of doership.
So what is one to do !!!
People of old times relied on home remedies especially the usage of Herbs.
One Herb people would take for a painful form of arthritis known as Gout was Autumn Crocus.
If the person did not take enough of the herb, the pain would not subside.
If the person took the right amount, the person got well deserved relief.
So the treatment appeared to be very simple, but..........
a person could not tell how much of the herb to take to cause relief. A specific amount might bring about relief, but the next time, the same herb amount might be stronger or it could be weaker.
So......
IF A PERSON TOOK TOO MUCH OF THE POTENT INGREDIENT IN THE HERB, IT WOULD KILL HIM!
Scientist were able to extract the active medical ingredient Colchicine which in pill form has brought relief from gout pain to many.

A lot of our modern day medicine is based on herbs, etc. just like Colchicine came from Autumn Crocus.
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Old 30-08-2019, 08:13 AM
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People of old times relied on home remedies especially the usage of Herbs.
One Herb people would take for a painful form of arthritis known as Gout was Autumn Crocus.
If the person did not take enough of the herb, the pain would not subside.
If the person took the right amount, the person got well deserved relief.
So the treatment appeared to be very simple, but..........
a person could not tell how much of the herb to take to cause relief. A specific amount might bring about relief, but the next time, the same herb amount might be stronger or it could be weaker.
So......
IF A PERSON TOOK TOO MUCH OF THE POTENT INGREDIENT IN THE HERB, IT WOULD KILL HIM!
Scientist were able to extract the active medical ingredient Colchicine which in pill form has brought relief from gout pain to many.

A lot of our modern day medicine is based on herbs, etc. just like Colchicine came from Autumn Crocus.

Indeed. Just like the active ingredient in aspirin is salicin from willow bark. But there is an argument that just taking the active ingredient is out of balance, whereas in the original herbal remedy that active ingredient might be balanced by other substances present.

Peace
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Old 31-08-2019, 12:56 AM
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Indeed. Just like the active ingredient in aspirin is salicin from willow bark. But there is an argument that just taking the active ingredient is out of balance, whereas in the original herbal remedy that active ingredient might be balanced by other substances present.

Peace
But in the example I showed, taking the herb by itself could
be deadly because you could not tell if you were getting enough
or getting too little or too much of the main ingredient.
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Old 04-09-2019, 08:21 AM
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Ha I still wish I had a crystal ball or some other way for a rapid best action ! ☺ dose indeed.
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