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Old 07-04-2019, 04:53 AM
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MChang--How about we are timeless pure spirit being housed in this human brain centered body, having a human experience.


I have no idea what a "pure spirit" is. Ive gone through this with few others and they never have given any clarity in those regards.


Spirit-3 Gravity ( ) and Spirit-4 Dark Energy )( are the closest we come to "timeless" yet still an occupied space.

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We shift our consciousness from Heart center spirit to brain center human back and forth back and forth.


You may need doctor to check your EKG's with more advanced physical. I had that done a year ago. They bring in machine to restart your heart just in case we have a heart attack when doing their rising treadmill test.


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Trick is to blend the two that already exists within us into one and create balance so we can stay in the yellow middle? Thanks. Brian


The doctors didnt say anything to me about that. Good luck if you go in for the heart test. I dont think there is any brain test linked to it.
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Old 07-04-2019, 11:31 AM
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I have no idea what a "pure spirit" is. Ive gone through this with few others and they never have given any clarity in those regards.


Spirit-3 Gravity ( ) and Spirit-4 Dark Energy )( are the closest we come to "timeless" yet still an occupied space.



You may need doctor to check your EKG's with more advanced physical. I had that done a year ago. They bring in machine to restart your heart just in case we have a heart attack when doing their rising treadmill test.




The doctors didnt say anything to me about that. Good luck if you go in for the heart test. I dont think there is any brain test linked to it.


For me pure spirit is what we were before we took on human form. Pure Energy, just being, existing in the moment, no human brain based ideas or thoughts. Sharing the energy that exists in the cosmos with all other beings.

In Taoism there is a belief that is common that we are two halves yin/yang. male/female heaven/earth. The writing from the ancient Taoists speak of two centers of consciousness with each of us. One center is from our human side, the brain. The other center is from our spirit side the heart. We can only experience the world around us from one of these two in any given moment. The challenge is to know which is which in any given moment.

This what meditation does for me, it helps me discern the difference between the two and through the process of identifying and healing unresolved issues we work to blend the two into one center of consciousness,

This is what I believe is meant by The One.

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Old 07-04-2019, 02:37 PM
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MChang--For me pure spirit is what we were before we took on human form.


This is not a clear definition of what your "pure spirit" is exactly.



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Pure Energy, just being, existing in the moment, no human brain based ideas or thoughts. Sharing the energy that exists in the cosmos with all other beings.


So now you've gone from "pure spirit" to "pure energy". So are you now trying to say that "pure energy" and "pure spirit" are the same?


Either way, you still have not given any specifics that actually are very descriptive in detail of what either is.


"existing in the moment" is true of occupied space existence.


Bears have no human brain, nor do fish, or bacteria.


Not only that the brain is not base on thoughts. The brain is based on RNA-DNA.. I'm sorry but your not giving any rational, logical and clear, concise common sense definitions for your "pure spirit" this or "pure energy" that
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Old 07-04-2019, 03:15 PM
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This is not a clear definition of what your "pure spirit" is exactly.






So now you've gone from "pure spirit" to "pure energy". So are you now trying to say that "pure energy" and "pure spirit" are the same?


Either way, you still have not given any specifics that actually are very descriptive in detail of what either is.


"existing in the moment" is true of occupied space existence.


Bears have no human brain, nor do fish, or bacteria.


Not only that the brain is not base on thoughts. The brain is based on RNA-DNA.. I'm sorry but your not giving any rational, logical and clear, concise common sense definitions for your "pure spirit" this or "pure energy" that

Not sure what your interest is? Is it to learn or is it to refute? These things are experiential in their nature and words will always fall short of the experience.

If it very much like trying to describe how it feels to hit a shot in golf correctly to someone who does not know what golf is, but to someone who has had the experience they can understand.

It is what Laozi said of Taoism, "It is the Tao that cannot be spoken of."

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Old 07-04-2019, 04:20 PM
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Not sure what your interest is?




Read my many lips/text messages in various thread and it is clear where my interests are, and how I put out effort much to define and described in specific detail with elaboration where needed



You and other like your self have very little to offer that in relevant definitive and descriptive detail, because, you really have nothing of significance to say, when ever you say "pure spirit" or "pure energy".


Basically meaningless words, empty of any true, significant or relevant content//information is all Ive seen from you and those like.


Just thought I would ask and find out if you were any differrent than the others. Now I know. Thanks for your attempts, irrespective of how far short the fall of clarity.



I will be moving on now. Bye.
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Old 07-04-2019, 08:04 PM
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Read my many lips/text messages in various thread and it is clear where my interests are, and how I put out effort much to define and described in specific detail with elaboration where needed



You and other like your self have very little to offer that in relevant definitive and descriptive detail, because, you really have nothing of significance to say, when ever you say "pure spirit" or "pure energy".


Basically meaningless words, empty of any true, significant or relevant content//information is all Ive seen from you and those like.


Just thought I would ask and find out if you were any differrent than the others. Now I know. Thanks for your attempts, irrespective of how far short the fall of clarity.



I will be moving on now. Bye.

Ok. so you are not here to learn just refute. Thanks for clarifying. Brian
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Old 08-04-2019, 12:54 AM
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Basically meaningless words, empty of any true, significant or relevant content//information is all Ive seen from you and those like.

so there is only one true way to relate? And we all fall short?
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Old 10-04-2019, 01:03 PM
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so there is only one true way to relate? And we all fall short?

I don't think we fall short, the words fall short of explaining the experience. If you and I have the same experience, whether together or individually, we can have a conversation, but for someone that hasn't it does not make any sense. Bless his journey we are all where we are supposed to be on our individual continuum, until we choose to change it. Take care. Brian
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