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Old 12-07-2017, 09:02 AM
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IMO absolute truth pre-exists before anything else, including God.
God cannot create absolute truth. At some point he might change his mind and change or replace it with something else. If he could not do that he would not be the all-powerful creator God, would he? And if he is not can we trust that he did indeed create absolute truth?

God can only work within the absolute truth. Absolute truth is more powerful than any God whatsoever. Everyone, everything, will have to bow before it.
I suppose all of that might be true if one believed the absurd notion of "God" as just another creation within its own creation. Which is impossible. God-belief philosophy clearly outlines that everything that exists, emanates from this God.
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Old 12-07-2017, 10:29 AM
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You know, that would be one useless God that wasn't even responsible for creating the laws that govern its creation, but instead is only here to uphold them and to make sure human beings follow those laws. Seriously, that's not a God, that's a cop.

Anyway, the notion of absolute truth, or anything else for that matter, existing apart from God, is the turtle-on-turtle theory all over again. Who then created the law of absolute truth? Some other God is the only plausible answer.
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Old 12-07-2017, 10:52 AM
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As far as I understand it, given my very limited and humble understanding, nothing created the law of absolute truth as it is self-created and exists beyond the concept of any 'God' even though many equate it with being a notion of 'God' in that it represents something far beyond what our limited minds or intellect can directly perceive or quantify.
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Old 12-07-2017, 03:52 PM
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I suppose all of that might be true if one believed the absurd notion of "God" as just another creation within its own creation. Which is impossible. God-belief philosophy clearly outlines that everything that exists, emanates from this God.
The two opposing views
'Emanates from God' or 'immanates God'
West and East
Standard Abrahamic religion and Mysticism
God as 'wholly other' (creator) and God as 'everything' (and equal)
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