Salvation for Fallen Humans & Fallen Angels (A Practical Guide)

[Morpheus]

So, I've asked before.
In Revelation 12?
Who are the 1/3 of the stars of heaven who were swept to the earth by the dragons tail?

Is humanity's actual origin in the angelic?
Stars represent both angels and people alike throughout the scriptures.
Example - Daniel 12:3

[lowlyservant]

Originally Posted by sky123

In your mind only.... Doesn't mean it's reality....

Not only in my mind. And it does means that it's reality. You just don't know of it as others do.

[sky]

Originally Posted by lowlyservant

Not only in my mind. And it does means that it's reality. You just don't know of it as others do.

What comes from the mind is the reality of the thinker, not reality...

[lowlyservant]

Originally Posted by sky123

What comes from the mind is the reality of the thinker, not reality...

It doesn't come from my mind and is thus reality.

[sky]

Originally Posted by lowlyservant

It doesn't come from my mind and is thus reality.

That's interesting, where does it come from?

Lowlyservant quote:
Today, it is common practice for the dead in purgatory to obtain indulgence from God through the Catholic Church for remission of the temporal punishment due to sins whose guilt has already been forgiven (C.C.C., X. Indulgences). So, in other words, the Catholic Church intervenes for the individual by asking Father God, who stores up our good works, to apply some of them in lieu of punishment due to sins. But these indulgences are limited to those who die in the communion of saints. Although, falling short of the glory of Christ, this is a good example of atonement being made for the dead in the afterlife by offering up good works.

You say Catholic church intervenes with our good works.
Also you are saying I should offer up my good works and intervene on the behalf of people passed on.
Yet in the New testament it tells me that works does not save. But Faith and Grace saves. I have no problem with offering prayers for the ones passed. For God is a father who answers prayer. But to offer works is a payment. Or a trade. So then I may be tempted to do works for payment or trade. My works shall come out of my faith in the Love of God.

[lowlyservant]

Originally Posted by sky123

No we don't ALL kill and eat animals everyday and those who do wouldn't use this nonsensical idea it's ' Atonement for our sins ' .

I didn't say that we ALL ate animals everyday, but today, most of us do. How is an animal sacrifice any worst than this? This is the way it was done in the old days. Today, we offer up good works.

[lowlyservant]

Originally Posted by SlayerOfLight

Based on my former fundamental religious perspective, only humans (if they didn't repent too late and became born again) have a chance to earn salvation.

For us, salvation isn't earned. It is a gift given by God.

Ephesians 2:8. For it is by grace you have been saved, through faith, and this is not from yourselves; it is the gift of God,

[lowlyservant]

Originally Posted by sky123

That's interesting, where does it come from?

Spirits of hell are outside the mind.

[sky]

Originally Posted by lowlyservant

Spirits of hell are outside the mind.

That's a little nonsensical, everything comes from the mind, even your spirits from hell...