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Old 13-07-2018, 08:13 AM
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some people are progressively 'grooving' together 'in' the 'reality' of the stream of universal spirit, while others are regressive becoming more 'i'solated in bubbles of either completely selfish generated or group-self fabricated 'dream' streams.
Sure. I used to fish with my uncle. A typical day consisted of 30 seconds of something nibbling on my hook, and 8 hours of nothing at all. But that 30 seconds... exciting! So I get your enthusiasm for the grooving part in all this. Disclaimer: I no longer fish nor eat them anymore, just making a comparative observation. Fish are groovy.
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Old 13-07-2018, 02:14 PM
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Exclamation God Eaten By Cold Blooded Savage

It just occurred to me that deep ocean marine biologicals do not show themselves to us.

Maybe God, as Nature --biological life being 85% or more water and Posiedon or Neptune God of Sea?--- maybe is a deep ocean creature.
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Baile-- Fish are groovy.

Or, they may be cold blooded savages.

See this link to 12 Killer fish, who would have guessed these cuties are waiting for the innocent to come close.

OMG I just saw God again. 2nd time this week
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Old 13-07-2018, 04:34 PM
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Sure. I used to fish with my uncle. A typical day consisted of 30 seconds of something nibbling on my hook, and 8 hours of nothing at all. But that 30 seconds... exciting! So I get your enthusiasm for the grooving part in all this. Disclaimer: I no longer fish nor eat them anymore, just making a comparative observation. Fish are groovy.
Some 'waters' are 'richer' (in fish) than others. Have you a better place to fish? If not, your choices are either to 'fish' here, revert back to suck 'sweets' on the sidelines, or just 'pick up your bait and go home'.

I hope you find what what follows to be is a relevant excerpt from the writing I am now doing, in an attempt explain what (I think) Jesus (must have) meant when he said "Whosoever will save his life shall lose it: and whosoever will lose his life for my sake shall find it."
"Now, continuing to address the main topic at hand: Though the alternative possibilities that a soul may psychospiritually develop to the point where it ‘finally’ fully acknowledges that it is not a separate self in its own right but a subsidiary expression of Life Itself and so consciously chooses to mentally, emotionally and behaviorally completely devote itself to living, and therefore forever thereafter lives on, as a coherent part of Its never‑ending Flow or that it may, as a result of volitionally or otherwise getting caught up in thinking, feeling and believing that the nature and extent of its personal being and doing derive from its own selfishness and so becomes psychospiritually disconnected from and out of synch with the lives of others around it to the point where it ‘finally’ ends up no longer being a part of the Flow of all Being (as a coherent entity, that is) are ever-present … as I say, though either of such ‘finalities’ are ever-actualizable at any point in the course of a soul’s journey in the context of Life’s Stream, and though a soul may reverse its direction in either of the foregoing regards at any time, such happenings are generally the cumulative result of a succession of choices which corroborate and reinforce ‘the sum’ of prior choices made over multiple lifetimes. So no single-lifetime choice-‘trajectory’, again in either regard, should ever be regarded as being absolutely soul-destiny determining in and of itself.

There are, however, macroscopic patterns in history wherein developmental sequences pertaining to the fore-referenced alternative possibilities probabilistically peak. Since the selfish versus self-transcendental personal-inclination trendencies☺ I speak of are generally sparked and fueled by interrelating others who are also in the process of acting out such bifurcating inclinations themselves, said ‘forevermore’ and ‘nevermore’ alternatives tend to be ‘finalized’ in the context of mass events wherein huge ‘waves’ (in terms of the numbers of individuals involved) of both such kinds of happenings cyclically crest and trough on a seasonal basis, as reflected in Jesus’ harvest-time allegories: “Lift up your eyes, and look on the fields; for they are white already to harvest. And he that reapeth receiveth wages, and gathereth fruit unto life eternal: that both he that soweth and he that reapeth may rejoice together.” (John 4:35-36) and “I am the vine, ye are the branches: He that abideth in me, and I in him, the same bringeth forth much fruit: for without me ye can do nothing. If a man abide not in me, he is cast forth as a branch, and is withered; and men gather them, and cast them into the fire, and they are burned.” (John 15:5-6)

All of us are now having to make make-or-break (in terms of ongoing soul development) choices in the above regards, …
P.S. It also occurs to me that you may be able to become more adept at making and deploying attractive 'lures' and consequently have a more 'game' experience here in terms of getting more 'strikes' and having more 'reeling' fun.
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Old 13-07-2018, 06:53 PM
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Though the alternative possibilities that a soul may psychospiritually develop to the point where it ‘finally’ fully acknowledges that it is not a separate self in its own right but a subsidiary expression of Life Itself and so consciously chooses to mentally, emotionally and behaviorally completely devote itself to living
I relate to that. Perhaps you and I differ on what constitutes devotion to living. Generally speaking, I consider kayaking in the ocean, or walking along the beach, devoted to living. Watering the garden. Feeding the birds. Touching real life.

Typing opinions on the Internet and getting into back and forths with online strangers? Not so much. Technology is a dead medium. But it's more than that for me. Opinions are a dead form of expression; they are thoughts and beliefs that have hardened into a static concepts. And pretty much every word typed in forums like this one are little more than lifeless opinions.

Salons were an example of devotion to the art of living communication.
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Old 13-07-2018, 08:28 PM
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Salons were an example of devotion to the art of living communication.
Written and read words (in my case at least) have been as powerful (in effect, on me included) as spoken and heard ones.

Given your 'judgment' in the foregoing regards, I would recommend you not hang around (here). maybe look for a 'salon'.
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Old 13-07-2018, 08:49 PM
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Sentient, sorry if I untintentionally mislead you, There was not posting of "stillness" or a zero point in my message.

I use a ball point at work but have never seen God in the ball point either. Maybe if ingested something or another I could see God in my ball point pen.

Oh look God just appeared. I guess just the thought of ingesting the appropriate something can cause to appear to us. Cool?

Well I'm a believer now

R6...methinks you have in fact uttered a deep truth whilst seemingly speaking in jest
As they say, there are many paths to God.

And I am totally down with your God icon too...it "speaks" to me

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Old 13-07-2018, 08:56 PM
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Hi 7L - Though clearly benign in its intention, I find such 'spiritual' double-speak (remember Orwell's 'equating' of 'opposites'?) to be truth-obfuscating even as it 'mystically' sooths by stopping (troubling) 'thoughts'

Hello there Davidsun. You're right, it can be obfuscating and that's why I said he took tortured approach to truth. But...for some, his vibe is resonant and when I was younger the obfuscated literary approach had some appeal so I get that even though it has less appeal to me now.

I like what you say here. There is a shorthand saying too for this same concept: Gam zu l'tova, or, it is all (ultimately) to the good. The nuance there being that it is ultimately to the good even when you cannot immediately observe or see it, so long as you strive to align with What Is with all your heart, all your soul, and all your might.

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In regards "all" being "said and done", I prefer observations/statements like: "All things work together for good to them that love God, to them who are the called according to his purpose." and "To every thing there is a season, and a time to every purpose under the heaven: A time to be born, and a time to die; a time to plant, and a time to pluck up that which is planted; A time to kill, and a time to heal; a time to break down, and a time to build up; A time to weep, and a time to laugh; a time to mourn, and a time to dance; A time to cast away stones, and a time to gather stones together; a time to embrace, and a time to refrain from embracing; A time to get, and a time to lose; a time to keep, and a time to cast away; A time to rend, and a time to sew; a time to keep silence, and a time to speak; A time to love, and a time to hate; a time of war, and a time of peace."

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Old 14-07-2018, 02:20 PM
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R6...methinks you have in fact uttered a deep truth whilst seemingly speaking in jest As they say, there are many paths to God.And I am totally down with your God icon too...it "speaks" to me
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7L, I agree with with this exception, that when those who may ingested something and then thought they saw God, I think is misleading, even tho I heard that said by others.


What is more correct assessment that many do state, is that the felt a connected-ness or one-ness with God, or the whole Universe etc type statements.


If your were to get into the details of what image they saw, then they will not have an image of God. They may say they saw groovy lines, moving around, or spiraling or this or that.


Those may be considered to be images there brain creates or minds eye images{ concepts }.


Again, they had a feeling{ chemistry } of being one with a greater whole.


This common in a crowd experience when many become unified and all the energy leads to things like a human sine-wave of standing and sitting in sequence. Or rasiing or lower hands/arms in sequence.


Or all hollowering same phrase in order repititions. These are spontaneous 'happenings'. Crowds gathering is sometimes a spontaneous 'happening' and all feel a oneness with that crowd as whole.
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