Isolation

[Starman]

Originally Posted by Greenslade

I noticed a thread you'd started a while back, asking why few of your threads didn't attract much traffic.

Can you please provide a link to the thread you are referring to?
Because I don't remember ever saying such a thing in any of my threads,
and I have an excellent memory.

Spirituality is different things to different people, and in my opinion
spirituality is all encompassing. I don't post here to gain an audience,
I only post to share; I put it out there and then, most of the time,
I let go of it.

[Gem]

Originally Posted by Greenslade

Fire is an avatar of the collective unconscious the same as darkness is, and it more than likely has its roots in the same place. Fire was - back in cavemen days - a place of comfort because it gave light and warmth as well as a cooked meal if the hunter was successful. It was used to ward of animals and what served as a warning to the animals served as a beacon in the night to other weary, hungry hunters. If the tales are true fire was God-given because it was discovered after a bolt of lightning hit a tree and set it ablaze. Even today people start bonfires on beaches and others automatically gather round. Today there are fewer metaphorical bonfires, there are fewer reasons to come together and more reasons to set ourselves apart.


I noticed a thread you'd started a while back, asking why few of your threads didn't attract much traffic. Feeling lonely? This thread and pretty much most of what could come from it has little to do with Spirituality per se, and no I'm not complaining because I'm actually OK with it. What happened was any number of things other than Spirituality and with respect, most that frequent these boards won't touch that with a barge pole.


And yet, you experience the greatest Spirituality of all.

To be lonely is always a human thing, and sometimes spirituality elicits imaginary states exclusive of what it true in ones life, and everyone becomes lonely at times in one way or another. As it implies relationship, it loses individual locale to become a condition of the world the Beatles sang of in "Eleanor Rigby".

[davidsun]

Originally Posted by Gem

To be lonely is always a human thing, and sometimes spirituality elicits imaginary states exclusive of what it true in ones life, and everyone becomes lonely at times in one way or another. As it implies relationship, it loses individual locale to become a condition of the world the Beatles sang of in "Eleanor Rigby".

'Out'er ex-peer-ience reflects - i.e. is an 'image' projected by - what's 'in'side one's psyche (soul, whatever). At least that's the theory, Gem and Greenslade.

[davidsun]

Originally Posted by davidsun

It strikes me that the 'American' cultural ethos is based on a belief (affirmation?) of what is thought of as a 'God given' right (like the 'right' to bear arms) to 'freely' pursue "Life, Liberty' and Happiness" - ... which in turn results in there being ... 'winners' and 'losers' in said 'pursuit' - ... the 'trouble' will continue to become more pronounced as said 'American' 'dream' continues to 'play' itself 'out' in a kazillion ways (senseless/mass 'killings' are just one such way - its done piecemeal, though many more 'die' at others hands elsewhere, in Chicago, etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc. etc.).

https://www.usatoday.com/story/news/...her/577876002/

[r6r6]

Originally Posted by Starman

.... and start shooting other people bystanders, people in church praying, moviegoers, or students getting an education,....

Perhaps you should have said killing other people instead of the word "shooting" since most often that word infers guns.

Many of the killings over these several years involved "shootings".

If we want to avoid "shootings" of humans then there is more than one of many factors to be considered in reducing the number of "shootings".

168 were killed in OK bombing.

1,077 humans have been killed by mass "shootings" since 1966, or so Ive read.

3,000, or more, killings via jet plane attacks.

[Starman]

r6r6r, I was referring to those who are isolated, excluded by others,
and they take their hurt, rage, etc., out on people by “shooting” them, in movie theaters,
churches, schools, etc. Yes, lots of people die in lots of ways; as a former ambulance
paramedic, I can attest to that.

We all die, it is just the manner of our death, be it by suicide, homicide, terminal illness,
or suddenly by accident, death comes to us all. However, I started this thread while caught
up in the moment of the recent “school shooting” in Texas, and that is the context in
which I wrote this.

Generally people react differently to the loss of a loved one depending on how that loved
one died. There is a different reaction to a loved one who committed suicide then there is
a loved one who died of natural causes, a different reaction to the death of a loved one
dying from homicide than dying in a car or plane accident, etc.

A different reaction if the loved one was viewed as having "an honorable death," as many
will observe such here in the U.S. this Memorial Day. I have seen hundreds of people die,
and regardless how we die, death does the same thing; it kills our physical human body.
Yet, for most who survive, we grieve and mourn their passing. I guess it can be said that
is what I was doing in my OP.