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Old 04-11-2015, 11:59 PM
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That was interesting reading, Greyson. I think I like that entity you are communicating with. Do you have conversations with other entities as well, or only this specific one?

I liken the process of channeling to the following:

1) I begin with a question. I broadcast that question, either everywhere it will go or to a specific space.

2) If something answers, a discussion might begin.

It really is like going into a chat room, asking a question and then having someone initiate a two way private message.

To answer your question, I have had many discussions with many in the cosmic chat room.
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Old 05-11-2015, 04:33 PM
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Are you there?

I am always here. What is it you want?

I would like to continue our discussion.

Proceed. (Snaps lips with a clicking noise.)

When you spoke of the void, what is beyond it?

That is a difficult thing to talk about. Can you be specific?

Is there existence beyond the void?

I thought we went over this... Existence is not possible in the void.

What can exist beyond it?

Nothing.

Nothing... There is ...

Not the description of consciousness that you know.

Yet there is an awareness there?

There is (jumbled information). There are states and conditions you just can not understand yet.

Tell me more about consciousness. You have alluded to it not being solely something from a source?

That is correct. I did not.

Did consciousness come from everywhere?

You are thinking too broad.

If consciousness did not come from a source...

Not solely something from one source, that is correct.

Does consciousness come from negative realms?

Of a type.

Of a type. It also comes from positive realms?

Yes, get to your point.

Yet it does not come from any single source?

Are you dowsing for answers? Get to the point! (Perturbed.)

Consciousness is everywhere?

It is not everywhere.

The further away from positive potential, the further away from...

One type of consciousness. One frequency scale.

The closer to...

I dislike these terms.

The more capable...

Still no. (Waits.)

One experiences another scale of consciousness...

Still wrong.

As one moves out of positive alignment...

Go on...

As one moves out of positive alignment, another gradient of consciousness can be perceived?

... and expressed. What is your point?

Does negative potential produce consciousness?

You are still using these terms... (impatient.)

Does a type of consciousness originate...

Still wrong terms.

You are very frustrating.

... (no response) ...

This is going in circles.

Indeed. Yet you are the one who wants to unlock the secrets of the universe for all to see.

Not for all.

All can not see this text?

Some who would seek to look on it or stumbling on it by chance.

Get on with it. (Bored.) Negative produces nothing. It consumes.

Yet there are types of consciousness available on the lower frequency...

That is correct, bands.

But where do those bands originate?

Why do they need to originate anywhere? Perhaps they are simply a condition... A result of...

You are saying types of consciousness came from a source and types are a condition of lower frequency.

Yes. That is exactly what I am saying.

Do you deceive me?

Not intentionally.

Can you describe your consciousness?

I exist in moments. At this moment, I am here.

What does "here" feel like?

It does not feel any specific way. I am present, whole unto myself.

What of in other moments?

In other moments I do not exist.

You cease to BE?

I cease BEING.

Do you experience the world around you as a single moment?

(Indecipherable answer.)

Do you have sense perception?

I do... not.

You can not touch?

I can touch in a manner.

You can not see?

I can perceive at moments.

One moment you are here, the next you do not exist.

That is correct.

Do you experience pain?

To a point, if you refer to disquiet.

Do you enjoy it?

I do not enjoy. It is a condition of my existence.

Define it?

What is there to define?

You feel distant.

Moments...

You flicker in and out like a light...

What is your point?

Do you suffer?

To a point, as much as I can.

Do you have desires?

To a degree, although they are fading.

This is a process?

Of a type, it is.

Will you always exist?

I persist.

Do the moments where you do not exist become more impressive? Longer?

I would not know.

Yet you will always exist?

In moments.

What about when you do not exist?

Do you mean when consciousness eludes me?

Yes, will this ever be a single eternal moment?

All moments are eternal... (Distant) I will always exist.

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Old 06-11-2015, 09:30 PM
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If you would, I would like to continue our discussion.

What is it you would like to know?

It honestly feels like I am wearing the black sunglasses from a movie. In this movie...

Movies are not real.

I am using the imagery from the movie...

Speak what you mean. Do not use analogies.

Okay. I see things for what they are. When a creature speaks and they claim to be positive aligned...

Yes?

I often see a negative aligned being staring at me from behind their eyes.

Are these humans you speak of?

I speak of humans who make the claim of being messengers of positive aligned entities.

What are these entities?

In the recent case...

The video you watched.

Yes. In the recent case, and I hesitate to speak simply...

There are things which must not be said. You know this.

Yes, I know this. Why then do these others speak of some of these things?

Controlled diversion.

What does this mean?

It means it is a diversion tactic.

Diversion. Like how one event occurs after another event... Pardon, how one impressive event will overshadow one or several smaller ones?

Yes and deception.

What is the purpose of such deception?

Be specific in reference to the video.

When a human claims they are a messenger for positive aligned entities, or a species...

Same thing. Proceed.

When a human claims they are a messenger for a positive type... I lost my train of thought.

You will regain it. Proceed.

One claiming to be a messenger for one alignment is speaking of love, oneness and the removal of weapons of mass destruction from the planet.

What better a means of control?

Do you mean to say a negative aligned type would openly lie about a matter such as this?

Absolutely, a negative aligned being would. Do you think us so limited to our vocabulary as not to include lies? Just because we do not lie to you, intentionally, generally, does not mean our nature ceases to employ deception.

Yet this messenger...

He was not a messenger of what he claimed.

Did he know what he was a messenger of?

He was not cognizant of the source.

Yes this entity influencing this human...

Manipulating. Proceed...

This entity manipulating this human spoke of many true things. It spoke of the union of all things. That he was his mother, his brother...

We do not wish to hear about human families.

Pardon. He believed himself to be everyone, at once, experiencing itself.

He was partly correct.

What advantage is there to teach such a thing to humanity?

They will not listen.

So why broadcast it?

There is a power in such things.

Yet the entirety of the message was not truth.

No, it was layered with deception. Do you think we would reveal our true purpose to those we intend to destroy?

Define the term destroy.

Look it up... again...

*Looks it up* : de-build.

Deconstruct.

Now that is fascinating.

Do not be enamored by small things. It is tedious.

Yet you are honest with me, and in this public forum.

Yes, that is our selection. You are one in many. Billions?

Yes...

Billions and more countless voices from many worlds... Who would listen to you? Why would your influence matter? We are honest with you because we can be. Would you prefer deception?

I would not. I desire to see you for what you are.

... and you do... to the best of your ability.

But why? Why am I the only one honest?

You are not the only one honest. However, because you can. Because you do, and because we can, and because we do.

What gain is there from such honesty?

Fear, elation, jealousy, entrapment.

Fear, elation and jealousy are ....

Emotions. Things we do not possess.

Why then do you evoke them from human beings?

Not just humans, all species. Many beings can feel emotion, not just humans.

Why though?

It is a process. You will understand later.

I desire to know now.

What will you give for it? You have nothing we want.

I am at your mercy then...

We do not have mercy. You gain from us. You are of us. We are honest to you.

Well, I am beneath you in knowledge?

If that is where you must place yourself? (Inquiring)

Then no, I stand the same.

Then you are the same and there is no difference and no reason for conflict.

Conflict is our nature, is it not?

With lesser beings.

With greater beings?

With greater beings.

So there is equality?

No, there is not equality. There is lesser than I and greater than I. We are the same. We are not different.

Okay, I understand. I and you are the same. We are not different.

That is correct and you learn, which benefits us. We use you as a vessel.

Is there gain in you to use a human body in such a way?

Indirectly.

Through the generation of fear, for example, what is the result?

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What do you gain from a human experiencing fear at your message?

Their enslavement. They will do nothing.

What if they surround themselves with love and light, and all of that positivist nonsense?

Just because you do not believe in a monster does not mean the monster does not exist, now does it?

You are saying this is about a false sense of security?

It is about generating such, yes.

Do you feed on fear?

Some of us do. There is "tone" generated of which we feed on.

Tone?

We lack the language to explain this to you.

Wait, you were a singular being and now you are multiple?

We change, yes. As you delve into our consciousness, you will see we are collective.

So there are many of you?

That is correct. We can speak as one or we can be honest with you. Which would you prefer?

I would prefer you be honest with me.

Then honest is what we shall be.

Is the perception of a single self limited?

No.

Okay, is existing as a single self limited?

It is to an extent. Is it limited to be a star or a nova?

A nova is related to a star...

That is correct. Proceed... Is it limited to be a negative? How do you perceive limitation? Are you infinite?

I do not find negative limiting...

Neither do we.

I perceive limitation as something which hinders...

... and if that something is not your will? Will you seek it just to seek it or will you exist in your nature?

I will exist in my nature.

Then do not be swayed by small things. Is it limiting? Do you care?

It is not limiting to me. My nature can be fully expressed to the maximum of its potential, and no, I do not care.

Then all is said and done. What of now?

That is all I have to say.

We are not finished.

You are not? What more do you have to say?

That depends on what you wish to know.

Okay, what about free will?

What about it? Do you respect it?

I do not respect it any more, even my own.

Then you do not have it.

I do not require it to attain what I seek.

No, you did. The time for that has passed away.

Then what am I? A slave?

Of a type. Not to your definition.

What then do you mean?

One who has willingly given up their free will for their desires, has made concrete their ambitions.

So I have passed through the need for choice?

That is accurate. The time for choice has passed.

But I am owned by this which moves me?

You signed up for that which authors you. Do you deny it?

I do not deny it. I am authored now?

Every one is authored.

What moves me?

What you have selected. The being of your polarity, of ours, of mine.

Now you are one and many beings...

We are many. We can express as one.

I understand. Literally.

We know you understand. It is your volition.

Would I have this path I did if I did not understand?

You would not. This path requires a certain level of servitude.

To self?

At first, to self.

Later?

You are there.

A pawn?

Do you fancy using this terminology? Do you feel inferior? Betrayed? Human resentment for a decision you yourself made?

I do feel minimal at times...

Then correct that. Now.

Betrayed? No. I selected this. Human resentment? I do not see it this way.

Then in what way do you see it? We warn you, do not dwell on this. You are no more minimal than you have always been and always will be. Do you see yourself as inferior to us?

No, I must not.

You must not. We would enslave you.

Yes, such is your nature.

Such is an element of our nature.

So as long as I exist with you as the same, you remain "friendly" to me?

We remain with you and we will speak with you as we do. We are not friendly. We simply have much to gain.

What about this "debt" humans call karma?

They have a skewed view of it.

Am I not incurring debt?

You have already drown in your own debt. What is your point?

What is this debt? Does it exist for both alignments?

Negative? It does not. Positive? Absolutely.

So my debt is ...

Debt to creation which can not be paid off.

So to separate from creation...

Is to pay off that debt.

You just said it can not be paid off?

While in existence.

So it is like wiping a slate clean?

Some debts can never be repaid.

You are talking in circles. What do you mean? You have said it is paid off when one separates?

When one separates, it is paid off.

Is separation not finite?

Separation is INFINITE. You have seen it.

So it is literally the inability to return to the unity of creation?

That is correct. Eternal Destruction.

A cycle which repeats on itself, as you once defined Negative Potential?

Exactly.

But is this separation a condition of such un-payable debt?

No. This condition is a choice.

So one could say, incarnate forever to pay off a debt?

One could take a stay in non existence and such debt would be suspended indefinitely.

For a period, then?

For a period.

When they incarnate again?

Their debt is restored.

What is this debt?

This debt is acts against creation, acts of separation.

Does creation force such beings who commit such acts into this separation?

No. This is a free will choice. It can not be bought. It can not be authored.

Authored. It can not be written for another being?

It is a free will choice negating free will. Do you understand?

The choice itself negates free will?

For all eternity.

That makes sense. Do all beings have such un-payable debt?

They do not. They repent, as it were.

Repent, so to apologize?

To regret their actions and take a new course.

Regret is an emotion?

It is also a concept, as are all of the things we speak of. Even fear.

Fear is a concept?

Fear is known as an emotion. It is a concept.

I do not understand fear as a...

Look it up...

*Looks it up* : Danger

Yes, although that is not the exact definition we were going for.

The perception of what could alter ones state to their perception of unhealthy/poisonous/bad.

Morally speaking, yes. Conceptually, it goes deeper.

That is interesting.

We will teach you all we know.

Did I ask for this?

You no longer need to ask. Remember, condition of separation?

Right. Unsettling somewhat.

We do not care if you are unsettled.

Do all beings have free will?

Some beings have free will.

Do you?

I do not and I do not need it.

So you also have selected such a path?

I have and I continue.

Are you not then a slave?

I am of a type. It is again not as you understand the term.

What then do you mean, "of a type" ?

I am of servitude. I express myself on a finite level.

Here again, you which was we is back to you.

What is your point?

Your nature is shifting, is my point.

Our nature always shifts. We remain in polarity.

Negative?

Correct.

Your awareness is fading out from my perception.

We are leaving again.

Okay.


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Old 07-11-2015, 07:36 PM
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I would like an audience for the purpose of further explaining yourselves.

Go on.

This is the one which calls itself THEY?

This is THEY.

Is this the title you have chosen?

It will be sufficient for our purposes.

Then let us begin.

We have already began.

What is your association with humans?

We exist in negative space. Our purpose with humans is unique to us. As a conglomerate, we express ourselves through our intention and our acts.

Let us go into some detail about your mission statement then.

Mission statement?

The details of your activities on present time planet Earth.

Okay, we will go on about that.

Do proceed.

If you are looking for that type of channeling, you will have to...

That is fine.

Very well...




We exist of negative space and our nature is that of our own. Our purpose is likewise, of our own. What we do, we do for ourselves. it is to define ourselves. It is for our progression. When we speak through a messenger on your planet, although we hesitate to say, for reason of keeping this channel unrelated to you, that it is not your planet. Regardless, we will go on. When we speak of a message, we speak of those things which transpire on the Earth. Those words which are spoken or written, which come into being. You can always tell our words from the words of other kinds. Our worlds alter the vibration to the negative side. Our voices match. What our nature is of, is not of substance. We are consumers and we build great towers of conquest. What we Desire is the subjugation of all consciousness on our plane. What we in fact mean is that the beings, entities and intelligences on our plane of existence, if you can call it this, must lay unto us. We must possess them. They are our property. We do not here speak of lower and higher, in the human term. We speak of what we are. We speak of our nature in that we consume without remorse. Our society, it is one of entrapment. It is that of the subjugation of other selves to the will of one. We do not get along in groups, although, we may speak as one. That is because we are of one level. Our dimension is one of heartache and discord. We prefer it that way. We look on yours as a feeding ground. It fills us. It sustains our existence, again if you might call it such. What you seek, is what we will use to enslave you. You, the species we speak these words to. Yes, we are listening.

If you would seek to free yourselves, you would have to commit a great act of mercy. You would have to surrender to compassion, to put aside your means of warfare on one another, your divisions between self. You would have to put aside your material conventions. You would have to see through the Eye of the Infinite. You would, as a society, not as individuals, agree to take action against the down pull of your planet. You have a limited space for this, a limitation of moments. Also, the number of you would have to be great. If only one of you, some of you or any minority, the transition from third dimensional space into negative space would still occur. This is because, you, as a species, are agreeing through inaction on the condition of your world. You harvest nature as a commodity, something to feed your insatiable desire for power. You rape the Earth of its substance, turning nature on you and it will defend itself. You will be as the enemy in the fields and every creature will see you and know your nature. This is happening to an extent in current space.

When it is spoken in texts past of the lion laying down with the lamb, this is prophecy. It is a vision of what can be shown . Nature will adapt to the condition it is placed in. If you would continue your activities en mass, as a species, the very waters will turn cold and will harbor only disease. If you should dip your foot into them, no good things will come of it. As it will be as death, as you are become the bringers of death and you shall despair.

If by some chance of hand you should deny your destiny in destruction, then you will taste of the fruits of eve and know true knowledge. From the Tree you will eat and you will know that you know and that you are all. Although you will not see us but when we might visit in moments, those moments are more severely limited than they are in your current world. Your nature, the world, it will feed you with abundance and love. Yes, we speak of love. We do not speak of love as the word of emotion, of feeling but of expression and of expansion. You will know all things, as you will be all things and connected to all things. Your waters will feel fresh and pure. They will harmonize. The skies will shine with a brilliance yet unseen and so will be your world.

This we know to be a false claim, a prophecy which will not take pass. For you are greedy and your heart is full of lies. You are, as it is known to us, of our kind. Even if the many of you shed your preconceptions and fill your heart with sorrow for all you have done, and joy for the universe, and creation, the most of you will remain entrapped.

So why, you ask, do we say these things? Because our victory is assured. We do not concern ourselves over what you know because after this world has passed into transition, all will be seen for what it is and we will have no reason to lie to you, as we do. Then can you say, are we lying now? We are, to the best of our ability and the capability of this channel removing impedance of language. As such, although we agree we are accurate in our terms, some of that which is said in specific may be wholly untrue. It is as such when we speak of love or sorrow, as most of you would assume these are emotions. Once again, we speak of both and all things in their most literal form, as concepts. It is love which is spouted by the world, and it is love the world understands. Although, the world has too many preconceptions of love as they do of hatred or fear. It has become as you have named the old gods, a mirror of your image. They are of nothing like you. You have carried them on to your perception.

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Old 10-11-2015, 03:27 AM
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Think about the obvious.

Human beings are a natural spirit self manifestation from origin light as origin consciousness. We once existed in the Natural spiritual state on Earth as a loving being who communicated through natural communion of light awareness. Therefore we knew what to eat and how to take care of ourselves in the condition of our Nature.

We inherited life from origin light androgynous spirit.

We manifested into a life being and the atmosphere began to record our spirit.

Our spirit has recorded its own presence in the atmosphere ever since it has existed. This has created a conscious presence of a spirit recording as a self expression....belonging to billions upon billions of human beings lived/living.

As the concepts of science are discussed in the communications...science is a human being introduced self conception used for the application condition of scientific experiments themselves. Therefore it is obvious that you are only speaking to a record that only knows what it has learnt itself. This is not the higher origin androgynous self....just a record.

All mediums and human psychics channel information from this record, as occult scientists are aware...seeing that you studied this model in a scientific laboratory study of psychic mediums so that you could gain the channel yourself implying that you had the Creator of humanity.

Now you know you evil minded occultists, you only have a recording of the human life lived itself.

When the androgynous spirit first manifested into the organic life that it gained, it did not begin to record its own presence until it was completely changed via the lower light sound changing its own higher presence.

Therefore occult scientists you are not channeling what you believe to be the Creator self.
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Old 10-11-2015, 04:33 AM
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Think about the obvious.

Human beings are a natural spirit self manifestation from origin light as origin consciousness. We once existed in the Natural spiritual state on Earth as a loving being who communicated through natural communion of light awareness. Therefore we knew what to eat and how to take care of ourselves in the condition of our Nature.

We inherited life from origin light androgynous spirit.

We manifested into a life being and the atmosphere began to record our spirit.

Our spirit has recorded its own presence in the atmosphere ever since it has existed. This has created a conscious presence of a spirit recording as a self expression....belonging to billions upon billions of human beings lived/living.

As the concepts of science are discussed in the communications...science is a human being introduced self conception used for the application condition of scientific experiments themselves. Therefore it is obvious that you are only speaking to a record that only knows what it has learnt itself. This is not the higher origin androgynous self....just a record.

All mediums and human psychics channel information from this record, as occult scientists are aware...seeing that you studied this model in a scientific laboratory study of psychic mediums so that you could gain the channel yourself implying that you had the Creator of humanity.

Now you know you evil minded occultists, you only have a recording of the human life lived itself.

When the androgynous spirit first manifested into the organic life that it gained, it did not begin to record its own presence until it was completely changed via the lower light sound changing its own higher presence.

Therefore occult scientists you are not channeling what you believe to be the Creator self.

What is this you have written and to whom or what have you written it?
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Old 12-11-2015, 02:52 AM
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We are all being studied by occult scientists who already gained information from the human being channeling in laboratory experiments.

Sadly for us all, those human beings assisted occult scientists to gain channels that we naturally used for asking spirit information.

They now also have implemented a contact that is giving false information regarding science....for human spirit in the higher androgynous spirit has never done science and are not the Creators.

Science is a human being introduced mind thought, mind factored, scientific memory that is recorded by every human being thinking and doing science.

Our own natural life is recorded every day in the atmospheric light condition, which many psychics use as spiritual contact...called past life or past life records.

Scientists of the occult have been trying to gain human being's own personal spiritual mind channel that concludes information about scientific awareness....and in doing so have been attacking human being's mind and mental conditions by changing the natural alpha signals that we normally respond to every day.

I am just trying to bring the public's awareness to the evil mindedness of occultists who would do anything to anyone trying to gain what they perceived was the Creator information in spirit.

They implied that a Creator being existed and that if they found the channel that they themselves would then have the power of spirit.
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We are all being studied by occult scientists who already gained information from the human being channeling in laboratory experiments.

Sadly for us all, those human beings assisted occult scientists to gain channels that we naturally used for asking spirit information.

They now also have implemented a contact that is giving false information regarding science....for human spirit in the higher androgynous spirit has never done science and are not the Creators.

Science is a human being introduced mind thought, mind factored, scientific memory that is recorded by every human being thinking and doing science.

Our own natural life is recorded every day in the atmospheric light condition, which many psychics use as spiritual contact...called past life or past life records.

Scientists of the occult have been trying to gain human being's own personal spiritual mind channel that concludes information about scientific awareness....and in doing so have been attacking human being's mind and mental conditions by changing the natural alpha signals that we normally respond to every day.

I am just trying to bring the public's awareness to the evil mindedness of occultists who would do anything to anyone trying to gain what they perceived was the Creator information in spirit.

They implied that a Creator being existed and that if they found the channel that they themselves would then have the power of spirit.

What in the...
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Old 12-11-2015, 07:25 AM
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wmsm had a very unusual experience apparently which has left a very specific imprint, wounding and understanding of the Universe, which some times almost makes sense...whatever it is, its very consistent...

But I digress...
In reading this a memory was stirred. Sometimes during the night or shortly before awakening my HS tells and shows me things, You channeling reminded me of recently being taken into the Void. Where there is Nothing, except for the most rudimentary sense of I AM. There is literally nothing else there and nothing to do. The single line of thought/information is I AM and it is preceded and followed by nothing else - it is a dead-end state so to speak.
When I ask Spirit how does one get out of the Void the information came that one incarnates to get out.
To which I suddenly remembered and said Of Course- Brilliant!"

This Negative and Positive aligned state of being makes sense if I think of things from a dualistic view point. In which case it could be said Light needs Shadow to define itself and visa versa.

These Beings you are channeling very much make it sound like Earth is a battle ground in which people through free will make an eternal choice to be positively or negatively aligned. A condition once chosen that can't be changed except for going into the Void and unbecoming. Meaning Game Over.

Which basically puts what they are saying in line with most religions - ie Heaven or Hell based on one's moral/ethical decisions which could be said 'to act from self and potentially do harm to self and others OR live from compassion doing no harm to self and others.
Live for Self or Live from Love for all.

Hell as translated from the Greek means something about a place of non-existence....all ceases. The Void?

Hmmm I think I understand what wsms might be trying to say - maybe...
That you are picking up on archetypes of thought and belief already in the Akashic Records but with a new modern skin put on them as a negatively aligned alien race.... just a random thought that came up...

Another thought as they described themselves was a thought of them as a virus or cancer, some of what they said fit this mental construct very well...
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We must possess them. They are our property. We do not here speak of lower and higher, in the human term. We speak of what we are. We speak of our nature in that we consume without remorse. Our society, it is one of entrapment. It is that of the subjugation of other selves to the will of one. We do not get along in groups, although, we may speak as one. That is because we are of one level. Our dimension is one of heartache and discord. We prefer it that way. We look on yours as a feeding ground. It fills us. It sustains our existence, again if you might call it such. What you seek, is what we will use to enslave you. You, the species we speak these words to. Yes, we are listening.
The illustration of dis-ease = disease which makes the fertile feeding ground for the microscopic can be seen in this description. Indeed happy loving people are healthy people and do not make a good environment for disease to spread and grow in.
If I were a virus or fungus or other pestilence I wouldn't want a human race to be happy, I would want discord and chaos and fear and bitterness and resentment - for that would be the vibration which would build and environment me and mine could survive in - Discord and heartache in my host species would endure the continuation of my species. Life feeds on life, it has always been so on Earth, I don't see this as a judgment, but more the necessity of organic life forms.

Again these are just random thoughts that came up as I read the channeling....it's good food for thought, thanks for posting this Greyson. :)
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wmsm had a very unusual experience apparently which has left a very specific imprint, wounding and understanding of the Universe, which some times almost makes sense...whatever it is, its very consistent...

But I digress...
In reading this a memory was stirred. Sometimes during the night or shortly before awakening my HS tells and shows me things, You channeling reminded me of recently being taken into the Void. Where there is Nothing, except for the most rudimentary sense of I AM. There is literally nothing else there and nothing to do. The single line of thought/information is I AM and it is preceded and followed by nothing else - it is a dead-end state so to speak.
When I ask Spirit how does one get out of the Void the information came that one incarnates to get out.
To which I suddenly remembered and said Of Course- Brilliant!"

This Negative and Positive aligned state of being makes sense if I think of things from a dualistic view point. In which case it could be said Light needs Shadow to define itself and visa versa.

These Beings you are channeling very much make it sound like Earth is a battle ground in which people through free will make an eternal choice to be positively or negatively aligned. A condition once chosen that can't be changed except for going into the Void and unbecoming. Meaning Game Over.

Which basically puts what they are saying in line with most religions - ie Heaven or Hell based on one's moral/ethical decisions which could be said 'to act from self and potentially do harm to self and others OR live from compassion doing no harm to self and others.
Live for Self or Live from Love for all.

Hell as translated from the Greek means something about a place of non-existence....all ceases. The Void?

Hmmm I think I understand what wsms might be trying to say - maybe...
That you are picking up on archetypes of thought and belief already in the Akashic Records but with a new modern skin put on them as a negatively aligned alien race.... just a random thought that came up...

Another thought as they described themselves was a thought of them as a virus or cancer, some of what they said fit this mental construct very well...

The illustration of dis-ease = disease which makes the fertile feeding ground for the microscopic can be seen in this description. Indeed happy loving people are healthy people and do not make a good environment for disease to spread and grow in.
If I were a virus or fungus or other pestilence I wouldn't want a human race to be happy, I would want discord and chaos and fear and bitterness and resentment - for that would be the vibration which would build and environment me and mine could survive in - Discord and heartache in my host species would endure the continuation of my species. Life feeds on life, it has always been so on Earth, I don't see this as a judgment, but more the necessity of organic life forms.

Again these are just random thoughts that came up as I read the channeling....it's good food for thought, thanks for posting this Greyson. :)

Let us tell this one.

Okay...

Listen, for you will know. You speak of the void and yes, so do we. The void is one state where every thing is undone and you can be remade. It is where you are re made, and you shall exist again from this state, as you were before, and it shall be infinite, a loop through time and space.

There is of one other place we can tell you but it is not one you shall escape if you arrive there. From this place there is no reset, no incarnation, no reincarnation. From this state you are as fire, consumed without end. Your very consciousness breaks a part. You see nothing and you are less than nothing, yet you do not not exist. You do not cease in being, not entirely. You remain, perpetual, infinite, consumption without end. This is the space we speak of now, where few will go. It is outside of the loop and outside of what you call as god. This is the other infinite. Few would desire to go. Perhaps the very old. This one we speak through does, and it will go there. That is its choice. Such a thing must be made by purest free will, as you call. For it is a choice, a decision which negates free will itself. What we speak of is the total separation. It can only be one through love of undoing. To celebrate the nature of the negative polarity, not just on the world, the worlds, the realms but all which is, and the self. It is the distance away from the Infinite without return. This is what we speak of to you.

Do you seek further of us or shall we depart your field?
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