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Old 22-07-2019, 09:59 AM
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I haven't done any actual research into this, just read a few things here and there.

Some people have stated that the Hebrew 6 corresponds to the letter W, so 666 can also be interpreted as WWW, which of course is the World Wide Web.

I think it was Fritz Springmeier (Author of: Bloodlines of the Illuminati and How to Create a Mind-controlled slave) that came out with some version of this information first. He claims the Beast is a supercomputer, run from Deep Underground Bases, an AI quantum computer of sorts that controls the WWW.

The mark of the beast will be an implanted microchip, from which everybody will be tightly controlled eventually, entirely extinguishing free will, much like what is depicted in Star Trek (the Borg) or Kurt Vonnegut's novels.

It sounds a bit out there, and I haven't verified any of this myself, but perhaps it's worth a mention. It is notable, that Moloch, the "other", dark deity of the Jews, is often depicted as a demonic machine controlling and devouring humanity, most notably in the famous movie "Metropolis".
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Old 22-07-2019, 04:17 PM
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The so called ''Mark of the Beast'' was a coin people used as payment in the Roman Empire. It was the coin with Nero's head on it. Interestingly, Nero was also injured and returned to Rome later on, ''fulfilling'' the ''prophecy''. Of course it was never a prophecy to begin with. People (''John'') wrote down what they saw and heard, and gave it a unique touch of faith, indicating that it was all predetermined and prophesied. The stuff about ''God's Kingdom on Earth'' and ''Jesus returns'' is all just bluff and expectations. And Nero actually is 666, so there you go...

So the book is a collection of different things, observations and expectations. It's been deconstructed thoroughly..
I think Revelations is a dangerous book as it gives people false hope and fatalism, and it also breeds conspiracy theories.
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Old 22-07-2019, 06:07 PM
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The Bible is Revelation of the Almighty to us, and it only takes thoughtful study, meditation, and consideration, Aknation.

In Revelation 13 we are given the number of the beast.
It reads that it is, "666".

Today we are in the computer age, and study brings out that the beast, much along the lines you've described, is the bulk of humanity, united, who are present upon the earth who have rejected "religion", and God Almighty, and His prophesied incarnation, the Savior.

The Lord had stated and asked two things.
He had stated to Thomas, after His resurrection, "blessed are those who don't see and believe".
He had also asked elsewhere, "When the son of man returns will he find faith upon the earth?"

Presumably, these remaining after the event occurs are those left behind after the catching away, or "Rapture" occurs upon the earth.
An event which has precedent in the old testament, and is well described by St. Paul.
St. Paul uniquely describes the event, having to do with his own NDE, described in Acts 14:19, which he relates to us in 2 Corinthians 12.

It might be presumed also that this event occurs at the outset of a global calamity, and that the institution of the "mark" of the beast is a result of this calamity, and the logical effort of remaining mankind to prevent another similar calamity, and the prevention of terrorist acts, and other crimes.
Which may be lauded also, as the means of peace upon the planet, and received and accepted as such by the willing remaining upon the earth.
We've already been moving, in a global manner, towards digitalization of humanity. We see the beginnings of it in certain military situations, and involving certain private organizations as a means of employees receiving their pay in the form of credits.
The origins of the mark originate in the, "social security number", and in the beginnings of credit cards, decades ago.

You know, it's been said that the devil imitates in the world all that God does.
This "mark" described, will be "invisible", as an instrument under the skin.
Described as either in the forehead, or the hand, in scripture.
Without which, "no one can buy or sell".

So, it can be discerned then, who or what the beast is.

How close do you think we may be, today, to this global event described by St. Paul in scripture?

Also, regarding what is predicted, or prophesied, consider Jesus' words about,
"the world to come" in the Bible.

That's one comprehensive look at this subject. I haven't any idea about this, I lack in revelation concerning this. But looking at your view of how close we are to this global event, I would say that we are at th beginning stages of full scale globalisation.
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Old 22-07-2019, 06:11 PM
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I think to even speculate is to invite trouble from over complicating things and mixing politics and religion. if something brings darkness/evil then that is your beast, if it brings good/light it's the opposite. so I think caution is best and safest approach to avoid getting confused
I see. I agree with this. But I feel Morpheus has mentioned this too in his post.
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Old 22-07-2019, 09:53 PM
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I see. I agree with this. But I feel Morpheus has mentioned this too in his post.

It's because I have seen numerous youtube vids of some folks that have gone very far out with the world ending stuff and they often use Revelation! I think that speaks to it's power/greatness as an apocalyptic work. But...it takes some strong kind of bedrock i think to be able to handle Revelation and survive the book, which it tells you only a few will do! I don't think God or Jesus is like the portrayal in the book it just uses certain imagery to describe crazy times
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Old 23-07-2019, 05:12 AM
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I think to even speculate is to invite trouble from over complicating things and mixing politics and religion. if something brings darkness/evil then that is your beast, if it brings good/light it's the opposite. so I think caution is best and safest approach to avoid getting confused

If humanity's origins, and actual situation, are in the angelic, and a fallen situation is about the animal/mammal, it's not complicated or difficult to understand that humanity is the beast, as explained in my prior post.

The angelic involves the Spirit. Which, is the greater reality and truth, involving what is permanent, and eternal. In contrast to what is temporary, involving the material and organic, in space/time.

The Lord does talk though about, "the world to come".

Speaking about how willingly people will be to accept a logical, technological solution to humanity's problems, you might look at the cell phone.
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Old 23-07-2019, 05:10 PM
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It's because I have seen numerous youtube vids of some folks that have gone very far out with the world ending stuff and they often use Revelation! I think that speaks to it's power/greatness as an apocalyptic work. But...it takes some strong kind of bedrock i think to be able to handle Revelation and survive the book, which it tells you only a few will do! I don't think God or Jesus is like the portrayal in the book it just uses certain imagery to describe crazy times

Some people have an obsession with the end of the world and other make money from it, such things are unknown to man and yet people claim day and night that they know when the end it is to come.
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Old 23-07-2019, 05:12 PM
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If humanity's origins, and actual situation, are in the angelic, and a fallen situation is about the animal/mammal, it's not complicated or difficult to understand that humanity is the beast, as explained in my prior post.

The angelic involves the Spirit. Which, is the greater reality and truth, involving what is permanent, and eternal. In contrast to what is temporary, involving the material and organic, in space/time.

The Lord does talk though about, "the world to come".

Speaking about how willingly people will be to accept a logical, technological solution to humanity's problems, you might look at the cell phone.

I always view your posts as being full of wisdom, you do seem to know some things that not many are aware.
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Old 23-07-2019, 05:31 PM
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We are all born with "identifying marks" as sadly at times in our death by means of not so natural causes we are identified by.

I have always wondered what the mark would look like ? We can have things like moles or birth marks but they mean nothing but cosmetics.

Boys are told that if they play with it they will get hairy palms. Is this a mark ? Though its not true in what happens.

Revelation 20:3-5 New International Version - UK (NIVUK)

3 He threw him into the Abyss, and locked and sealed it over him, to keep him from deceiving the nations any more until the thousand years were ended. After that, he must be set free for a short time.

4 I saw thrones on which were seated those who had been given authority to judge. And I saw the souls of those who had been beheaded because of their testimony about Jesus and because of the word of God. They[a] had not worshipped the beast or its image and had not received its mark on their foreheads or their hands. They came to life and reigned with Christ for a thousand years. 5 (The rest of the dead did not come to life until the thousand years were ended.) This is the first resurrection.


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Old 24-07-2019, 01:39 AM
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The "beast" would be our own lower consciousness, self serving without moving towards love or compassion. Those not yet awakened to the heart, love unity.

So if you dwell strictly in material and lower consciousness, separation, me mine, taking/controlling/getting your god is material and lower consciousness. The beast within.
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