Astral Travel is Evil?

[jinivha]

Tristran, why are you a part of such an open-minded community when your views are so narrow? Why are we sinners for astral projecting?

[Kaimi]

Originally Posted by jinivha

Tristran, why are you a part of such an open-minded community when your views are so narrow? Why are we sinners for astral projecting?

His views are his own. Every closed mind can be opened through philosophy. To think, question, and learn is what lead us to where we are now.

[jinivha]

Originally Posted by Tristran

You know, daemons are going to have a field day with billions of sinners and astral travelers in hell.

They cannot wait.
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talking like this to people bothers me. Opinions are fine, blatant accusations against the people interested in what this section is about, i feel, is going too far.

[Kaimi]

Descartes said, "I think therefore I am" through this assertion he concluded that he was real but everyone else he could not determine if they were or not. Its ok. Do not let someone you have never laid eyes on ruffle you so.

In the same way that a Christian believes with all certainty of the existence of heaven and hell, I believe one day things like what was quoted will not fly so easily forth.

[Tristran]

Originally Posted by jinivha

Tristran, why are you a part of such an open-minded community when your views are so narrow? Why are we sinners for astral projecting?

Because i have witnessed first hand the risks of astral traveling into a house of fallen angels only to end up getting blasted through a white door into Hades standing next to the black, leafless, scorched Tree of Death.

Whilst there, events just went from bad to worse.

Astral traveling is a death wish.

i am not stopping anyone from trying it. If a person wants hell for eternity, astral traveling is a perfect way to get there. Once they are in hell they will never escape.

Again, if astral traveling was good, YHWH would allow it to happen naturally every night for every person on this planet, wouldn't He ?

Well, He doesn't, because the astral plane contains all fallen angels and they are grumpy right now. Lol

[astralsuzy]

If you are against astral travelling why are you on this forum? I did not think people would be interested to be on the forum in they were against astral projection.

[Kaimi]

Then why even make it possible?

Have you ever felt that floating and falling feeling that jolts you awake? If something as all powerful as the source of everything wants or does not want, then it is so. God get what god wants. Unless you want to dispute the omnipotence of god, which in some faiths is considered heretical and blasphemous

[Tristran]

Originally Posted by Kaimi

Then why even make it possible?

Have you ever felt that floating and falling feeling that jolts you awake? If something as all powerful as the source of everything wants or does not want, then it is so. God get what god wants. Unless you want to dispute the omnipotence of god, which in some faiths is considered heretical and blasphemous

Choice is the reason why its possible.

Its possible because on the day that a person gets judged, if they chose to astral travel then they cannot say that they were forced into it.

Yes i have felt the single jolt where the whole body shakes whilst falling asleep.

See, i had the choice to take it further or to turn my back on it.

i turned my back on it, because i know that Yahushua has better, more amazing things in store for me, once i move on from this world.

[kkfern]

tristen has unique beliefs. i forgot what she called it. she thinks/believes she is a fallen or resurrected fallen demon or some thing. what was it tristen. please excuse me for not remembering.

kk

[Kaimi]

Originally Posted by Tristran

Choice is the reason why its possible.

Its possible because on the day that a person gets judged, if they chose to astral travel then they cannot say that they were forced into it.

Yes i have felt the single jolt where the whole body shakes whilst falling asleep.

See, i had the choice to take it further or to turn my back on it.

i turned my back on it, because i know that Yahushua has better, more amazing things in store for me, once i move on from this world.

That may very well be the case, but let. Me ask you, you said earlier that if it was allowed then god would make it natural and something everyone can do nightly, then admit to having that sort of experience, how can you ignore what was granted by your own god. Something just about everyone has experienced at some point? Calling it unnatural? Sounds like breathing to me.