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Old 10-03-2019, 09:56 PM
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I consider spiritual development as the journey from identification with personality to identification with Consciousness. We then function through a Soul-infused personality.

The next stage is identification with Being, where the Soul-infused personality becomes an expression of Spirit.

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can you elaborate on janielee's question for further discussion :)
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Old 12-03-2019, 07:47 PM
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I admit that I really hate all these different words - Soul! Spirit! Consciousness! Being!

Who knows who means what? Right?

Regardless of that, can you talk a bit more about how you see the difference between these two stages you mention?

A soul infused personality VERSUS Spirit?

How does that come into being, and how is that really different in your mind?

Thank you

JL

I tend to use Soul and Consciousness interchangeably. Likewise Spirit and Being (or even Monad). I will try to be more consistent.

This is all based on the teachings in the Alice Bailey books which I can relate to from my own experience.

A human being is triple in nature. There is the Monad (our true Being). This expresses itself through individualised Consciousness or the Soul. The Soul incarnates in form through successive personalities. Personality is considered as the mental and emotional nature expressing through a physical body.

For much of our human journey in form these three aspects of Being/Soul/personality are separate. The spiritual path really begins when there is the first conscious contact between Soul and personality.

At this stage we are still mainly identified with personality, but there is some measure of contact with the Soul. This contact increases as we progress on the spiritual journey, primarily through meditation when we turn our backs on the outer world and go within.

There is a long period where identification fluctuates between the familiar patterns of personality and the less familiar nature of Soul. This can be a very difficult time. The outer world no longer satisfies us, but we are not yet established in identification with Soul. We are caught between two worlds.

Gradually we become more stabilised in identification with Soul. We consider ourselves as Consciousness expressing through the mental/emotional/physical patterns of a human body.

At this stage Soul and personality start to merge as Soul consciousness descends into the mental and emotional bodies. This is regarded as a Soul-infused personality. The eventual outcome is that we become Soul consciousness directly expressing itself through the physical body via our particular mental and emotional patterns.

As this is happening, the process is repeating itself on a higher turn of the evolutionary spiral. We make our first conscious contact with Being. The Soul-infused personality is both expressing in the outer world but also learning to rest in Being.

Again, identification fluctuates between the Soul-infused personality and resting in Being. But gradually our identification becomes stabilised in Being. Then, for as long as we remain in human incarnation, our life is Being expressing through the human body, via Soul consciousness and our particular mental and emotional patterns.

In the esoteric tradition there are various initiations associated with successive stages of spiritual development. So the Soul-infused personality is associated with the 3rd initiation and the blending of Being and Soul-infused personality is associated with the 5th initiation. In this tradition the initiate of the 5th degree is considered as a Master.

Peace.
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Old 13-03-2019, 03:54 AM
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Thanks for your response, iamthat.

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There is a long period where identification fluctuates between the familiar patterns of personality and the less familiar nature of Soul. This can be a very difficult time. The outer world no longer satisfies us, but we are not yet established in identification with Soul. We are caught between two worlds.

Gradually we become more stabilised in identification with Soul. We consider ourselves as Consciousness expressing through the mental/emotional/physical patterns of a human body.

At this stage Soul and personality start to merge as Soul consciousness descends into the mental and emotional bodies. This is regarded as a Soul-infused personality. The eventual outcome is that we become Soul consciousness directly expressing itself through the physical body via our particular mental and emotional patterns.

As this is happening, the process is repeating itself on a higher turn of the evolutionary spiral. We make our first conscious contact with Being. The Soul-infused personality is both expressing in the outer world but also learning to rest in Being.

Again, identification fluctuates between the Soul-infused personality and resting in Being. But gradually our identification becomes stabilised in Being. Then, for as long as we remain in human incarnation, our life is Being expressing through the human body, via Soul consciousness and our particular mental and emotional patterns.

It's an odd thing being stuck between two worlds.

JL
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Old 13-03-2019, 06:29 AM
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Thanks for your response, iamthat.

It's an odd thing being stuck between two worlds.

JL

We all go through it. We have a foot in both worlds, the material world and the spiritual world. We know the things of the world of form will never satisfy us, and yet we are repeatedly drawn back into old familiar habits because we are not yet ready to let go. Eventually we reach a point where we say enough!

Peace.
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Old 13-03-2019, 08:24 AM
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No one knows for sure,yet we have hats.
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Old 13-03-2019, 03:55 PM
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We all go through it. We have a foot in both worlds, the material world and the spiritual world. We know the things of the world of form will never satisfy us, and yet we are repeatedly drawn back into old familiar habits because we are not yet ready to let go. Eventually we reach a point where we say enough!

Peace.

My only contention is the job thing, but maybe that's a big thing - survival.
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