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Old 12-12-2019, 05:54 PM
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The 6 days of creation

I've been reading recently about a cave painting that has at least 44000 years old.

At first I thought the the Creator made the world in literally 6 days and made it look like billions of years. Then I thought the humanity appeared 6000 years ago, and the world was much much older.

Now, it's clear the that the story of creation can not be taken literally, humanity has at least 44000 years of existence.

Now, any ideas about the story of creation in 6 days?
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Old 12-12-2019, 06:02 PM
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I've been reading recently about a cave painting that has at least 44000 years old.

At first I thought the the Creator made the world in literally 6 days and made it look like billions of years. Then I thought the humanity appeared 6000 years ago, and the world was much much older.

Now, it's clear the that the story of creation can not be taken literally, humanity has at least 44000 years of existence.

Now, any ideas about the story of creation in 6 days?

I do not look at the creation account as a myth.

If you look at the 2 creation accounts, the 2 flood accounts, etc., it does not take long to realize more then one person is writing the accounts especially if you look at it in Hebrew.

If you look at the Talmud, people do not have issues with the Talmud. People realize it is a depository of opinions. I suspect Genesis, with its various opinions, is very similar to the Talmud in writing style. The difference is that the Talmud appears to be a more refined writing style that lets the reader to realize it is dealing with opinions whereas Genesis lacks that refinement.
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Old 12-12-2019, 06:10 PM
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I've been reading recently about a cave painting that has at least 44000 years old.

At first I thought the the Creator made the world in literally 6 days and made it look like billions of years. Then I thought the humanity appeared 6000 years ago, and the world was much much older.

Now, it's clear the that the story of creation can not be taken literally, humanity has at least 44000 years of existence.

Now, any ideas about the story of creation in 6 days?



I have seen cave paintings that are 38000 years old, amazing....

Most religions include an explanation for life on Earth in their scriptures. Genesis is just one of them, explore some of the others you'll find them interesting, We have to remember that they didn't have Scientist/ Archeologists etc : that could explain Evolution so they had their own ways of understanding the wonders of the Universe and how Humans/Animals came to be....
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Old 12-12-2019, 06:23 PM
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Now, any ideas about the story of creation in 6 days?
Ideas? Sure...
Well, a day is the earth revolving around the sun 24 hrs.
We know they didn't exist at first - it was a Void - no light, no firmament.
There was no such thing as a day'. Ha! So we have that.

Then, for Bible readers, a day is like a thousand years to the Lord, right?
"A thousand years in your sight
are like a day that has just gone by,
or like a watch in the night." NIV Ps 90:4


Then 2 Peter 3:8:

But do not forget this one thing, dear friends:
With the Lord a day is like a thousand years, and a thousand years are like a day.
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Old 12-12-2019, 10:55 PM
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Thank you all for your answers, if more christians would understand that humanity has tens of thousands of years of existence, then they would be able to get a better understanding of the scriptures, there are too many subjects about the end time, every single year, someone comes with a new theory...
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An older person will say, "In my day" we did this, that, or not.
We have the scripture also about a day being like unto a thousand years to the Lord...

We ought to understand by now especially with what physics tells us since Einstein, that in comparison with eternity, (a timeless reality), that Time (related with space), is insignificant.
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We have the scripture also about a day being like unto a thousand years to the Lord...

We ought to understand by now especially with what physics tells us since Einstein,
that in comparison with eternity, (a timeless reality), that Time (related with space),
is insignificant.
You and I have always agreed on these things, Morphie!

They don't know we go back, what, 8 yrs from another Forum?
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Old 14-12-2019, 12:01 AM
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Just like the garden of eden is the mind of man so to the 6 day creation story is about the inside not the outside
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Old 14-12-2019, 12:22 AM
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One great aspect of the creation account is the sequence of events are in their proper order.

If the account was presented in the fashion evolution is understood today, who would have believed the account?
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Old 14-12-2019, 12:47 AM
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From the view of mysticism

This is as Sri Vasudeva taught me - that the world was created in six stages not days. Below is a very very simplified version...using the King James Bible:

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Gen.1
[1] In the beginning God created the heaven and the earth.
[2] And the earth was without form, and void; and darkness was upon the face of the deep. And the Spirit of God moved upon the face of the waters.
1st stage of creation Crown chakra - before the elements were created - pure awareness
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[3] And God said, Let there be light: and there was light.
[4] And God saw the light, that it was good: and God divided the light from the darkness.
[5] And God called the light Day, and the darkness he called Night. And the evening and the morning were the first day.
2nd stage of creation Brow chakra - the "element" mind - the first thought or intention was to create
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[6] And God said, Let there be a firmament in the midst of the waters, and let it divide the waters from the waters.
[7] And God made the firmament, and divided the waters which were under the firmament from the waters which were above the firmament: and it was so.
[8] And God called the firmament Heaven. And the evening and the morning were the second day.
3rd stage of creation Throat chakra - the element space - where the thought vibration can move
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[9] And God said, Let the waters under the heaven be gathered together unto one place, and let the dry land appear: and it was so.
[10] And God called the dry land Earth; and the gathering together of the waters called he Seas: and God saw that it was good.
[11] And God said, Let the earth bring forth grass, the herb yielding seed, and the fruit tree yielding fruit after his kind, whose seed is in itself, upon the earth: and it was so.
[12] And the earth brought forth grass, and herb yielding seed after his kind, and the tree yielding fruit, whose seed was in itself, after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
[13] And the evening and the morning were the third day.
4th stage of creation Heart chakra - the element air
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[14] And God said, Let there be lights in the firmament of the heaven to divide the day from the night; and let them be for signs, and for seasons, and for days, and years:
[15] And let them be for lights in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth: and it was so.
[16] And God made two great lights; the greater light to rule the day, and the lesser light to rule the night: he made the stars also.
[17] And God set them in the firmament of the heaven to give light upon the earth,
[18] And to rule over the day and over the night, and to divide the light from the darkness: and God saw that it was good.
[19] And the evening and the morning were the fourth day.
5th stage of creation Navel chakra - the element fire (associated with sight) - energy moving in space creating air causing friction causing fire
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[20] And God said, Let the waters bring forth abundantly the moving creature that hath life, and fowl that may fly above the earth in the open firmament of heaven.
[21] And God created great whales, and every living creature that moveth, which the waters brought forth abundantly, after their kind, and every winged fowl after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
[22] And God blessed them, saying, Be fruitful, and multiply, and fill the waters in the seas, and let fowl multiply in the earth.
[23] And the evening and the morning were the fifth day.
6th stage of creation Sacral chakra - associated with water - when the air gets hot enough it creates condensation and rain falls
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[24] And God said, Let the earth bring forth the living creature after his kind, cattle, and creeping thing, and beast of the earth after his kind: and it was so.
[25] And God made the beast of the earth after his kind, and cattle after their kind, and every thing that creepeth upon the earth after his kind: and God saw that it was good.
[26] And God said, Let us make man in our image, after our likeness: and let them have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over the cattle, and over all the earth, and over every creeping thing that creepeth upon the earth.
[27] So God created man in his own image, in the image of God created he him; male and female created he them.
[28] And God blessed them, and God said unto them, Be fruitful, and multiply, and replenish the earth, and subdue it: and have dominion over the fish of the sea, and over the fowl of the air, and over every living thing that moveth upon the earth.
[29] And God said, Behold, I have given you every herb bearing seed, which is upon the face of all the earth, and every tree, in the which is the fruit of a tree yielding seed; to you it shall be for meat.
[30] And to every beast of the earth, and to every fowl of the air, and to every thing that creepeth upon the earth, wherein there is life, I have given every green herb for meat: and it was so.
[31] And God saw every thing that he had made, and, behold, it was very good. And the evening and the morning were the sixth day.
Gen.2

[1] Thus the heavens and the earth were finished, and all the host of them.
[2] And on the seventh day God ended his work which he had made; and he rested on the seventh day from all his work which he had made.
[3] And God blessed the seventh day, and sanctified it: because that in it he had rested from all his work which God created and made.
7th stage of creation Root chakra - solidified intention of God - we live in a world of energy that looks solid - God rested on the seventh day means a number of things but as we know Genesis goes on to talk about the "Serpent" and this is Kundalini the Power of God that did all this creating now sleeping at the base of the spine - the spine of the Universe (YOU-niverse) - the spine or "Tree of Life". (It's the Tree of Knowledge when we think we're just the body focused on the material things but turn it upside down and go back up the tree and it becomes the Tree of Life when we strive to attain that spiritual consciousness again and realize our Divinity as a soul in a human experience reaching for the Father - God.)

All the ancient cultures have some version of this story. From the point of view of mysticism it's all an internal process. Whenever the "serpent" is demonized, that's just another cultural "scandalizing" the one that came before it. I suppose this is hard to accept by hard core Christians but actually the universal mysticism is imbedded in the Bible too.
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