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Old 11-07-2011, 05:23 PM
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Prayers and Spells

I understand that magic spells must be physically done exactly to be effective.
A Catholic prayer can be physically done inexactly, but be effective.

Why is there a difference between prayers and spells?
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Old 11-07-2011, 05:55 PM
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First, dealing with "magic" - the key aspects are the Will and Intent of the practitioner. The exact words and rituals are almost irrelevant.

Catholic prayers are highly ritualistic and the words are proscribed. There is a cross-over as the Catholic Church uses quite a lot of Magical Forms, the Mass for example is High Ritual Magic in a formal setting.

So there, perhaps, is the difference. Catholic prayers are formal. Whereas non-religious magic tends to be informal.
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Old 11-07-2011, 06:16 PM
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and we spake them in rhyme :P
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Old 11-07-2011, 06:37 PM
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I personaly dont see a difference. Its the intent behind them both that make them appear effective. The ins and outs dont really matter, because without intent behind them, prayor or magic isnt being practiced properlu. You have to mean it.
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Old 11-07-2011, 09:35 PM
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Good question, great answers, can't wait to read the rest of them.
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Old 11-07-2011, 10:01 PM
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I understand that magic spells must be physically done exactly to be effective.
A Catholic prayer can be physically done inexactly, but be effective.

Why is there a difference between prayers and spells?
IMO magical practices are usually secular and are usually for a specific purpose; such as protection, cursing, healing, etc.

Prayers are petitions to deities to grant something out of favor and grace. Prayers can also be simple praise and thanksgiving for what you already have.
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Old 12-07-2011, 07:47 AM
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" magical practices are usually secular"
Dunno whether I agree there, Animus. Think about things like weddings, funerals, christenings, mass - IMO they all contain elements of magical rituals.
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Old 12-07-2011, 02:26 PM
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But weddings and the like are still secular no?
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Old 12-07-2011, 02:40 PM
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Maybe it's not an either/or. Some prayer rituals have elements of magic in them but some "spells" have elements of prayer ritual in THEM.
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Old 12-07-2011, 03:25 PM
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Then i think it goes back to my point:

They are both based on intent, the differences are irrelavent
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