New Age Deceptions.

[LiberatedLotus]

Disclaimer: This is simply an inquiry with the intent to
arouse the mind & heighten our awareness of this
particular field of study.

If interested, please view the YouTube videos listed
to gain a deeper understanding of the topic.

Mark Passio: New Age & Suppression Of The Sacred Masculine
https://youtu.be/mbZQyUUyaRQ

Unslaved Podcast with Michael Tsarion: New Age Fraud
https://youtu.be/SxuJKQXoSJg



Upon observation, I've come to see this reoccurring pattern of absolutes, unsubstantiated claims,
and an overall unilateral approach to these ideologies & belief systems that simultaneously
undermine other pertinent faculties & variables of our existence.

In short, your Western Astrological sign & Vedic
Nakshatra is by definition you
( without any respect nor due research of the comprehensive material ) .
Your crystals, gemstones, and herbs are your lifelines. Santeria is the answer for all your misfortunes.
Demonic entities are the reason for all your perversions. The downfall of your community is due to energetic fields & ley lines.
Your inability to love is simply because of the obstruction of the Anahata.

Yes, there may be potential for truth within all these statements, however by no means should spirituality
and the quest for truth within this realm detract from others / compromise other
faculties (both internally & externally).
It truly can undermine the beauty & complexity / yet
simplicity of life.

Whenever one holds a particular opinion, thought, or a belief it is
imperative one suspends that into space and take a total
360 view of it to understand it in its entirety.
(Dark & Light aspects, variances, degrees, relation to
other modalities, historical context/s)

[LillyBelle]

This is sort of a simple break down of all the views within the New Age community. Though, I think I understand what you are trying to say. One needs to look at the full picture and use some critical thinking when evaluating situations.

It is true that all claims made within the field of Parapsychology and spirituality, in general are unproven. If not outright debunked by Science. However, how can one prove many things within one's spiritual beliefs?

[LiberatedLotus]

Yes.
There is much to our existence that
goes far beyond the accepted &
conventional norms, illusions if you will.

It is important to remain balanced
within all frames of being.

Expand our understanding of our
spiritual nature but not in way that
creates tunnel vision.

Interesting indeed and preaching to the converted with me. I’ve never been a fan of the New Age Industry.

- It’s becoming increasingly fragmented;
- it harbours a few well-respected charlatans usually with financial aims;
- to hold people’s reins it discourages research and questioning; critical examination usually yields a whole lot of problems: inconsistencies, contradictions, flawed logic, false “facts” etc; that would deter a discerning person.
- mostly it’s dilutions and cherry-picking from older traditions;
- it claims to have easy answers suited to the instant gratification age;
- consequently never touches on the work and preparation needed for consistent progress in development.

I could give examples but I’ve done so here in the past.

The second video had a lot to say about people abandoning a dubious set of beliefs for another just as dubious, intelligent points raised by someone who has bothered to research.

The first video was dead on and could probably be added to. In fact, some of the delusions (because that’s what they are) could hurl people into kind of peudo-spirituality that further down the line could damage. Mr Passio points out New Age tenets that are delusional - anti-spiritual almost!

There’s often a reluctance here to ask questions particularly of one’s own beliefs. People will believe what they’ll believe – that’s their entitlement – but one sometimes senses them leading themselves up blind alleys. It isn’t good form to say so or question them so I steer clear of most “specialised” sections now. Twin flames is an exception, interesting because almost always it’s one person attempting to impose their beliefs on another. Affirmations? I rarely respond now since it’s turned into a money-spinning industry that's corrupted the practice. The basic guidelines were once on a double sided sheet of A4. Now they’re booksful. I look down the index of threads and hardly any recent ones are about affirmation. LoA is simply a fraud.

So it rests with us to question ourselves as well as listen to others as we all have more to learn, then decide to keep or discard as necessary. Ultimately the only worthwhile gurus we have are ourselves.

♥

[Starman]

The New Age, and New Thought, movements are just like any other religion, based on beliefs that can not be objectively proven; yet Christianity has been around for about 2,000-years, Hinduism has been around for about 5,000-years, and so forth, all based on unproven beliefs to those who do not embrace those religions.

Science is objective while religion is subjective, which gives them different standards of verification. I remember back in the early 1970's when the "New Age" movement was first beginning here in the U.S., and it was supported by a lot of gurus who came to the U.S. back then from India and parts of Asia, etc. A number of new religions were starting here in the U.S. back then, including the Hari Krishna movement, Scientology, the New Age movement, and the New Thought movement, among others.

Parents and other relatives would hire "de-programmers" to kidnap their loved ones away from these movements, physically force-ably grab them and bring them to their loved ones. They would then try to de-program these people who they kidnapped to try an get them back into the conformity of mainstream American thinking. Back then some in these movements considered de-programming to be a challenge as to how strong their beliefs were in the movement which they were in.

But admittedly there were also a lot of people who were abused or damaged by their participation in these movements, but it also agreed with many who joined. The Hari Krishna movement has dwindled but other new startup religions from the 1970's, like "Science of Mind," the new age and new thought movements, etc., have grown, My position on it is to each their own; I take from many various paths but do not embrace any label for my own path.

[lemex]

Originally Posted by LiberatedLotus

Yes.
There is much to our existence that
goes far beyond the accepted &
conventional norms, illusions if you will.

This particular point of your argument is part of the basis of New Age awareness though, and exactly what we ask for, definitely illusions and norns. If fact as far as I can see, this is why New Age started. I to remember the time so called New Age concepts and to which I feel open awakening started. Imagine being at a place and time when it began. New Age may actually be a transition point of consciousness and represent a level of change.

It is important to remain balanced
within all frames of being.

Expand our understanding of our
spiritual nature but not in way that
creates tunnel vision.

Here is the difficulty. One, New Age has no leaders and is completely decentralized. There is no organization, no structure and completely hands off. This is how it started and personally feel I have to support New Age and its potential, I also remember the time it began (common usage) and that which was before it. New Age moved away from authority and censorship and spoke about the exploration of self and in fact all things. It had so much information and added tons of information we had no concept of or words. It was a challenge to us. Right now it is brand new and totally open and honestly free. This balance we worry about will happen as we explore it further and have no fear, learning even ancientest information if we think about it, all that information the population was denied until New Age made it available. The old systems were not up front about and old systems do not become new. It isn't possible to have tunnel vision with New Age it contains everything all systems talk about New Age is very inclusive and does not pick one thing over all things. The thing is, that which is old had time to adopt and grow into what they've become but we yet have no idea what New Age will be in a thousand years. As far as I feel, other (dated) systems did not change when they had the opportunity to and change is inevitable in consciousness. New Age may be the expression of a change of consciousness and since it is new there will be many mistakes imo. It still remains a choice! This may be the evolution consciousness in awareness always takes every few thousand years or so, are we ready. New ways of seeing.

[LiberatedLotus]

Originally Posted by Lorelyen

- It’s becoming increasingly fragmented;
- it harbours a few well-respected charlatans usually with financial aims;
- to hold people’s reins it discourages research and questioning; critical examination usually yields a whole lot of problems: inconsistencies, contradictions, flawed logic, false “facts” etc; that would deter a discerning person.
- mostly it’s dilutions and cherry-picking from older traditions;
- it claims to have easy answers suited to the instant gratification age;
- consequently never touches on the work and preparation needed for consistent progress in development.

Yes. Moreover I've witnessed a large percentage of
people who subscribe to these ideologies that may
or may not have genuine intrigue in their
spirituality yet still operate from latent
hardwired conditioning.

I have incorporated "xyz" into my pre-existing
condition / palette rather than the complete
dismantling of the former to give way to the
latter.

[LiberatedLotus]

Originally Posted by STARMAN

A number of new religions were starting here in the U.S. back then, including the Hari Krishna movement, Scientology, the New Age movement, and the New Thought movement, among others.

The obvious problems with these "movements" are
the deprogramming / destabilization / control &
manipulation of masses. People have
to be aware of the dark aspects (that exist in
everything) of occultism, politics, religious / spiritual
dogma & how they are interconnected.

See, it's beautiful to see the interconnectedness in
life. But must be aware of how these principles operate
on every level of existence.

This is why it's important for people to maintain
a universal perspective, to have proper discernment,
and methodology to correctly synthesize information
from a myriad of sources to get to truth.

Originally Posted by LiberatedLotus

This is why it's important for people to maintain
a universal perspective, to have proper discernment,
and methodology to correctly synthesize information
from a myriad of sources to get to truth.

You mean a universal perspective which is yours, proper discernment which is yours, etc..

How New Age is that? LOL!

[Tobi]

I can't help but agree with everything you said LiberatedLotus. I have thought similar, but you express it well.