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Old 10-08-2011, 07:23 AM
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T Ascension is when we reunite w/ the Universe


This is exactly what believe in.We connect to our source.
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Old 10-08-2011, 07:31 AM
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Do you think it is possible for the normal humanbeing to enter Heaven alive just like Jesus did after his resurrection?

Heaven is consensuses and it has nothing to do with your body and that is why to think to go to heaven with your present body is like to survive the tsunami
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Old 10-08-2011, 09:22 AM
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Have some of you ever heard of Babaji or read the book "Autibiography of a yogi"?
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Old 10-08-2011, 09:27 AM
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Have some of you ever heard of Babaji or read the book "Autibiography of a yogi"?
Yes but I don't think its true.
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Old 10-08-2011, 09:28 AM
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Heaven is consensuses and it has nothing to do with your body and that is why to think to go to heaven with your present body is like to survive the tsunami
He He, i like it..
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Old 10-08-2011, 09:28 AM
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Have some of you ever heard of Babaji or read the book "Autibiography of a yogi"?


Yes I have read it. It is Yogananda
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Old 10-08-2011, 02:21 PM
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Babaji seemed to have developed an eternal physical body through Kriya yoga. Do you think that traveling to eternal spiritual dimensions is possible with such a body?
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Old 10-08-2011, 03:54 PM
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I've heard about this before, so I wondered if the ascension to Heaven can be done on one's own effort. Is it possible to enter Heaven without the help from Jesus?
No. In order to enter heaven either before or after we die physically we must have our sins forgiven and that can only be done through Jesus.

http://www.backtothebible.org/Indexes/index.php?option=com_mosforms&Itemid=180
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Old 10-08-2011, 04:15 PM
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If you read the Bible you will find that Enoch and Elijah were taken to heaven without experiencing death.

Were Enoch and Elijah also ascended because of Jesus?
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Old 10-08-2011, 04:28 PM
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Were Enoch and Elijah also ascended because of Jesus?
The only way anyone can be forgiven and come into the presence of God is through faith in Jesus. He died to pay for our sins and we must put our faith in him in order to be forgiven. But God foretold that he would do this and commanded the sacrifice of animals to serve as a picture of what Jesus would do. People who lived before his time were saved by believing he would die for their sins just as people who live today are saved by believing that he has died for our sins. Enoch and Elijah must have exercised this faith in him or God would never have brought them into his presence.

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