Is it fair to say that essentially God is a mystery?

[Altair]

Originally Posted by janielee

Just because you don't know, doesn't mean others don't.

The others don't know it either..

You have complete freedom to continue telling yourself you are everyone and everything and are One with trillions of galaxies, and know all there is to know about these galaxies. I am entirely free to consider such beliefs ludicrous. I consider them delusions of grandeur committed by talking mammals who think they're somehow the main deal, the key species, bigger than gods and angels, to understand everything spiritually. Can't you see that such belief systems are a bit arrogant..?? Just because people experience bliss, peace, and timelessness in meditation and feel peace beyond that doesn't mean you can make the conclusions that you have..

Lets be a bit more humble and modest shall we..?

[Honza]

Originally Posted by Altair

The others don't know it either..

You have complete freedom to continue telling yourself you are everyone and everything and are One with trillions of galaxies, and know all there is to know about these galaxies. I am entirely free to consider such beliefs ludicrous. I consider them delusions of grandeur committed by talking mammals who think they're somehow the main deal, the key species, bigger than gods and angels, to understand everything spiritually. Can't you see that such belief systems are a bit arrogant..?? Just because people experience bliss, peace, and timelessness in meditation and feel peace beyond that doesn't mean you can make the conclusions that you have..

Lets be a bit more humble and modest shall we..?

I do agree with you Altair. People in meditation get this feeling that they are one with everything and that they know everything. My opinion is that this experience is just a strong feeling. One meditates until one is overwhelmed by ones strong feelings of bliss. It does not make you God however.

[Honza]

Originally Posted by sky123

' None of it means you are that. Come on.. '

How do you know?

One does not need 100% certainty. All one needs is a rational mind. A certain sense of "time, space and relativity".

[God-Like]

Originally Posted by sky123

Self-knowledge is the key to the knowledge of Truth or God. And throughout the ages, all the great enlightened beings taught this.
“Know Thyself” – Socrates
“Examine yourself & understand who you are… Whoever does not know self, does not know anything. But, whoever knows self, has acquired the knowledge of the universe.” ~ Jesus, Book of Thomas (Gnostic Gospels)
“Knowing others is intelligence, knowing yourself is true wisdom.” – Lao-Tzu
“This is true knowledge, to seek the Self…To seek anything else is ignorance.” – Bhagavad-Gita
“He who knows himself knows God.” – The prophet Muhammad
“The body is the temple of the gods within you. And therefore, it is said, “Man: know thyself.” – ~ Egyptian Proverb
“Jesus said, ‘When you know yourselves, then you will be known, and you shall know that you are children of the living Father. But if you do not know yourselves, then you live in poverty.'” – Gospel of Thomas
“Those who know and realize the Self are forever free.” – Katha Upanishad
“All the scriptures tell us one thing: Know Thyself. If you have known yourself, you have known everything else.” – Swami Satchidananda

Agreed .

This fits in nicely with Moonglow's thread regarding the unknown mind.

It's only ignorance and in a way forgetfulness that stops one from knowing what you are and what you know.

It takes Self realization or God realization to know there is no mystery .

As honza just stated ''It does not make you God however'' ..

One cannot make oneself God if one is already that .



x daz x

[sky]

Originally Posted by God-Like

Agreed .

This fits in nicely with Moonglow's thread regarding the unknown mind.

It's only ignorance and in a way forgetfulness that stops one from knowing what you are and what you know.

It takes Self realization or God realization to know there is no mystery .

As honza just stated ''It does not make you God however'' ..

One cannot make oneself God if one is already that .



x daz x

' One cannot make oneself God if one is already that .'

Exactly how I see it...

There are several mysteries that nobody on this forum can explain.
There are several simple laws way out of any humans control.

[sky]

Originally Posted by ImthatIm

There are several mysteries that nobody on this forum can explain.
There are several simple laws way out of any humans control.

' There are several simple laws way out of any humans control.'

Like what

[Ascension]

If i'm still a mystery for myself then how can God be a certainty ?
and if i'm not in the know of all things then how can mystery not be certitude .

Originally Posted by sky123

' There are several simple laws way out of any humans control.'

Like what

Water
Fire
Earth
Wind

To start with the basics.

[sky]

Originally Posted by ImthatIm

Water
Fire
Earth
Wind

To start with the basics.

Thanks, I'm not getting why they are laws though, I'm a little dense
I would call them Elements, do you mean Natural Laws?