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Old 04-02-2014, 02:13 PM
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"I have no judgment about myself and my life. There is nothing I am quite sure about. I have no definite convictions - not about anything, really. I know only that I was born and exist, and it seems that I have been carried along. I exist on the foundation of something I do not know. In spite of all uncertainties, I feel a solidity underlying all existence and a continuity in my mode of being."

- C. G. Jung
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Old 09-02-2014, 08:46 AM
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I've never read the book but isn't it the same thing as "soul families" basically?
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Old 09-02-2014, 11:29 AM
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I've never read the book but isn't it the same thing as "soul families" basically?

As in your soul group? It's talking really about something different.

i've tried to place the past few books i've read into a context with other stuff. i've read a lot of the past 60 years of research on past life/inter life work. i've read a lot of the NDE/OBE stuff. i've read all kinds. It interests me as to how all of the 'different' areas may combine or link up? It's all obviously talking about spirituality/the spiritual Worlds, but different material does appear, despite some similarities, to also be saying different things, in some cases very different things.

i don't honestly know is the honest answer - i suppose i will when i physically die?

There doesn't appear to be categorical answers to life on the other side of the veil - other than what i'd consider a surety that life continues after physical death.

In relation to Soul Groups/Family - some of those areas may be referring to the 'lower' realms/worlds. To cite Pealer's work - those Worlds below the 5th.

i'm not sure that anyone wholly knows who is in human form, whatever their credentials.
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Old 09-02-2014, 02:30 PM
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So glad you brought this up. Being a Seth reader, this is all very fascinating
to me.
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Old 10-02-2014, 04:13 AM
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So glad you brought this up. Being a Seth reader, this is all very fascinating
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Thank you.

Glad you got something from it. i've read a bit of Seth.

i've just read book 2 of Emmanuel's channelled writing. Again got the impression that she may have been channelling some Higher aspect of herself.

Am starting now on some books about a more in depth look at holistic health systems.
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Old 12-02-2014, 05:34 PM
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I'm having difficulty embracing the idea of "supersoul" or "oversoul". It, to me, sounds like no one is truly an individual, which makes the concept of LOVE a challenge. I do believe love is the most powerful bond, but it isn't as if I wish to somehow become someone else or everyone else, you know where we all just sort of melt into one another.
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Old 13-02-2014, 09:45 AM
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I'm having difficulty embracing the idea of "supersoul" or "oversoul". It, to me, sounds like no one is truly an individual, which makes the concept of LOVE a challenge. I do believe love is the most powerful bond, but it isn't as if I wish to somehow become someone else or everyone else, you know where we all just sort of melt into one another.

He's saying that the Oversoul/Super Soul/Higher Self (whatever you want to call it) - is the Self! That is the point he's making. Agape is the 'supposed' awakened nature - the nature of God, of Reality & Truth. The meaning of life is Love, the meaning of Love is beyond explanation.

But i understand. This is where, i really don't know, & i'm unsure that anyone else does. If you look at the entire field of spirituality & the spiritual traditions, there is no categorical answer to this question.

In the 'supersoul' book 3 very different theories are put forward as to what 'may' be going on.

Look into Buddhism/Hinduism or any of the more Eastern meditation/spiritual systems & the whole field of the Esoteric teachings, & there isn't an agreed upon answer there either.

What does seem intellectually satisfying is the idea that things are both, that the individual exists within Oneness - That the whole exists in the part - the part in the whole.

It is the fundamental question - Who/what is the exact nature of the Self?

On a very practical & grounded basis, we're 'here', we exist & we're here to live a life. Maybe you don't need to know anything other than that?

i liked the Buddha's answer -

When the Buddha started to wander around India shortly after his enlightenment, he encountered several men who recognized him to be a very extraordinary being. They asked him: "Are you a god?" "No," he replied. "Are you a reincarnation of god?" "No," he replied."Are you a wizard, then?" "No." "Well, are you a man?" "No." "So what are you?" They asked, being very perplexed. Buddha simply replied: "I am awake." Buddha means “the awakened one.” How to awaken is all he taught.
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Old 13-02-2014, 08:33 PM
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Admittedly, I have not delved into Buddhism enough to even remotely comprehend it, so some of the concepts as I currently understand them are a bit frightening to me (denial of the self, disdain toward the living world, etc.).

Personally, I do not ascribe to the concept of "oversoul" as I believe we are all truly distinct, unique individuals. The idea of somehow becoming *one* through enlightenment is unappealing to me, as I do not see the "self" as being lost when we pass over.
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Old 13-02-2014, 10:15 PM
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Personally, I do not ascribe to the concept of "oversoul" as I believe we are all truly distinct, unique individuals. The idea of somehow becoming *one* through enlightenment is unappealing to me, as I do not see the "self" as being lost when we pass over.

Your free to think, be, do, believe what you like.

As i say, for me, i don't know.
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Old 14-02-2014, 01:29 PM
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He's saying that the Oversoul/Super Soul/Higher Self (whatever you want to call it) - is the Self! That is the point he's making. Agape is the 'supposed' awakened nature - the nature of God, of Reality & Truth. The meaning of life is Love, the meaning of Love is beyond explanation.
I don't quite understand this.

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What does seem intellectually satisfying is the idea that things are both, that the individual exists within Oneness - That the whole exists in the part - the part in the whole.
This makes a lot of sense. It's hard to convey as my terminology is limited, but the individual isn't lost, it's more like enhanced or there's this thing that goes on...like a dual expression for lack of better terms(one and many). I suppose in time, enough individuals will experience such a thing as it become a part of our lexicon and our society will adapt.

But anyway, cool thread, thanks for bringing up such an interesting topic.
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