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Old 22-01-2017, 06:07 AM
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My newest non-dual spokesperson is Natalie Gray (find her at Youtube) and Natalie is a very clear and non-authoritative speaker who can discuss her own awakening and understandings of the Absolute and the One in very simple, uncomplicated terms that many others cannot or will not. Natalie will say that all there is, is the Absolute or the One and everything that is or is apparently happening comes from or is done by the Absolute - including all the horrifying/ugly stuff!
Many folks, including a lot of seekers and non-dualists, don't want to hear that and prefer to find some evil monster to blame for the "bad" stuff in life. As far as I am currently concerned, the Absolute/One/Source IS the doer and author of whatever is here - including the ugly stuff. I have no idea why the Source does any of this ugly stuff but I am willing to accept it as important or necessary FROM THE SOURCE'S perspective. If I ever find out WHY the Source does these things, I'll tell all of you. Right now, all I can do is my best and hope the Source is doing it's best.
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Old 22-01-2017, 07:54 AM
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My newest non-dual spokesperson is Natalie Gray (find her at Youtube) and Natalie is a very clear and non-authoritative speaker who can discuss her own awakening and understandings of the Absolute and the One in very simple, uncomplicated terms that many others cannot or will not. Natalie will say that all there is, is the Absolute or the One and everything that is or is apparently happening comes from or is done by the Absolute - including all the horrifying/ugly stuff!
Many folks, including a lot of seekers and non-dualists, don't want to hear that and prefer to find some evil monster to blame for the "bad" stuff in life. As far as I am currently concerned, the Absolute/One/Source IS the doer and author of whatever is here - including the ugly stuff. I have no idea why the Source does any of this ugly stuff but I am willing to accept it as important or necessary FROM THE SOURCE'S perspective. If I ever find out WHY the Source does these things, I'll tell all of you. Right now, all I can do is my best and hope the Source is doing it's best.

She has a very pleasant demeanour and a wonderfully articulate self expression,
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Old 22-01-2017, 10:28 AM
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I'll check her out, thanks for the recommendation (and the name Natalie seems to be cropping up in my life quite a bit atm, so maybe it's a sign).

EDIT Just checked her out, yeah she speaks about non-duality in a very concise, straighforward way, she reminds me a lot of Adyashanti Just watched this video, if anyone fancies giving it a watch: Non-Dual Awareness: How Did You Do It?

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Old 22-01-2017, 01:30 PM
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Book1 There Exists No Cosmic Source imho

There exist no cosmic source.

There exists our finite, occupied space Universe--- see fermions and bosons ---and the macro-infinite non-occupied space that embraces our finite, occupied space Universe.

There exists a source of fresh drinking water, that comes from swamps, lakes, mountains, ice the atmosphere and prior to that, comets.

Oxygen, then water are primary to all biological life on Earth. imho

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Old 22-01-2017, 11:45 PM
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My newest non-dual spokesperson is Natalie Gray (find her at Youtube) and Natalie is a very clear and non-authoritative speaker who can discuss her own awakening and understandings of the Absolute and the One in very simple, uncomplicated terms that many others cannot or will not. Natalie will say that all there is, is the Absolute or the One and everything that is or is apparently happening comes from or is done by the Absolute - including all the horrifying/ugly stuff!
That's enough evidence for her awakening being just a wishful construction.
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Old 23-01-2017, 10:27 AM
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That's enough evidence for her awakening being just a wishful construction.
I hesitate to ask, but - how so?
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Old 23-01-2017, 10:44 AM
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I hesitate to ask...
Yeah I laughed out loud at that lol.
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Old 23-01-2017, 10:49 AM
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Thanks for the link jim, that's enough evidence in that YouTube video to suggest her thoughts are interesting and enlightening, even those I don't necessarily agree with. The thing is, when you grok that truth is just your truth and nothing else, it puts an end to all "wishful thinking" type assessments. We're all just living our own chosen belief constructions.

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Old 24-01-2017, 10:11 PM
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I hesitate to ask, but - how so?
It is obvious. Someone babbling about an 'Absolute' that is not seen by everybody but is his/her private 'Absolute' should seek help.
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Old 24-01-2017, 11:22 PM
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Book1 2 >true< 2

Absolute >truth< Absolute

Relative >truth< relative

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There exist no cosmic source.
There exists our finite, occupied space Universe--- see fermions and bosons ---and the macro-infinite non-occupied space that embraces our finite, occupied space Universe.
There exists a source of fresh drinking water, that comes from swamps, lakes, mountains, ice the atmosphere and prior to that, comets.
Oxygen, then water are primary to all biological life on Earth. imho

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