If you get mad over situations, does the U just give you more of them?

[MissCreativeSpirit]

I think I am having an ephiphany.
So focusing on what isn't working out at any given time only attracted more to focus on with anger and frustration. Another version of a karmic cyclic nightmare haugh!

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by MissCreativeSpirit

I think I am having an epiphany.
So focusing on what isn't working out at any given time only attracted more to focus on with anger and frustration.

Ha, you got it. What we concentrate on or simply give our attention to is drawn to us. Period.

When I was a Christian...a few TV preachers would say (paraphrasing)
'Name it and claim it.'

When asked how were they doing (even tho their back was killing them) they would say,
"Great!' Never looking at or acknowledging their pain.

When a bill comes, never feel, "Oh no, how am I going to pay this?"
Just either feel neutral or better, confidently say, "Somehow this will work out" and smile about it.
Watch after awhile how things start to change....never have doubt is the key.

[iamthat]

Yes. Energy follows thought, so we give energy to whatever we focus on. If we choose not to focus on certain things then those things will dissipate.

To put it another way, if we habitually complain about life then life will give us more things to complain about.

Peace.

Originally Posted by iamthat

Yes. Energy follows thought, so we give energy to whatever we focus on. If we choose not to focus on certain things then those things will dissipate.

To put it another way, if we habitually complain about life then life will give us more things to complain about.

Peace.

A few questions

1. How long until that stops (if one has been mired in negativity, fear etc) or "dissipates" e.g for old fears, sometimes I (feel like) I can't help but imagine - which makes it worse. Is not thinking about them the best course but given I had, how or when or can it dissipate?
2. Can you explain a little more re: energy follows thought please - as in vibrationally? There is different energy with different thoughts? But how does it come together per se
3. Is the inverse true in your EXPERIENCE? And even if so, isn't it a little artificial/fake to fake a feeling or thought to TRY to get something in return?

Thanks,

JL

Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn

Ha, you got it. What we concentrate on or simply give our attention to is drawn to us. Period.

When I was a Christian...a few TV preachers would say (paraphrasing)
'Name it and claim it.'

When asked how were they doing (even tho their back was out) they would say,
"Great!' Never looking at or acknowledging their pain.

When a bill comes, never feel, "Oh no, how am I going to pay this?"
Just either feel neutral or better, confidently say, "Somehow this will work out" and smile about it.
Watch after awhile how things start to change....never have doubt is the key.

Hm. New stuff. This approach. Really.

Thanks... *with a little doubt*

JL

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by janielee

A few questions
1. How long until that stops (if one has been mired in negativity, fear etc) or "dissipates" e.g for old fears, sometimes I (feel like) I can't help but imagine - which makes it worse. Is not thinking about them the best course but given I had, how or when or can it dissipate?
2. Can you explain a little more re: energy follows thought please - as in vibrationally? There is different energy with different thoughts? But how does it come together per se
3. Is the inverse true in your EXPERIENCE? And even if so, isn't it a little artificial/fake to fake a feeling or thought to TRY to get something in return?

iamthat is just not quick enough! So, I'll put my 2 cents in first, if I may.

If you were to monitor, and thus recognize your diff thoughts...distinguishing the useless, maybe negative, even
harmful ones out from the pleasant, kind, constructive ones....THEN,
deliberately, like a Sentry at his post...stop and banish the unwanted ones
each and every time they showed up...in 2 weeks you will see a big difference.

Now, these constructive, pleasant thoughts are like laying track for a train.
You could see a little positivity coming your way pretty fast...say,
an aloof co-worker (unconsciously reacting to your new aura) says
a nice Good Morning to you.
That is the train moving ahead a 100 feet.
Keep laying the tracks and you'll get to California, see?

2. Explain the energy? Get 2 tuning forks the lower tone will change to the higher.
3. Fake it till you make it. Our subconscious mind follows whatever you think and feel.
If you keep thinking you will get sick...you will.
If you visualize being at the beach the mind will make all the peaceful endorphin changes in your body as if you were there.

So trick your subconscious mind into thinking. 'Everything is comin up roses"♫ ....and the Universe will respond.

My Gosh, I can now just think of something and it will happen in minutes to a day...and I mean
the most impossible, obscure things you could not even imagine.
Why? Because I believe...I know how how thing work.
It's a simple Formula to make things work here on earth.
Specifically the time? Maybe a year of diligent intentional effort and trust?

Doubt? Has NO part in it, ever.

This idea of 'getting something in return' as if it is a negative thing?
If you plant corn to get corn is that a bad thing?
If I know how the mind works , and how the Universe works...give money and it will return to you..why is that bad?
Honey draws those that want honey, so put it out there.
Vinegar repels.

It is not wrong to want things or to want desires fulfilled...
or to put fancy birdseed out to get particular birds to come.

Thanks Miss H, very helpful.


JL

[iamthat]

Thanks to Miss H for her thoughts. She is right - I am just not quick enough . Maybe due to being in a completely different time zone.

Originally Posted by janielee

1. How long until that stops (if one has been mired in negativity, fear etc) or "dissipates" e.g for old fears, sometimes I (feel like) I can't help but imagine - which makes it worse. Is not thinking about them the best course but given I had, how or when or can it dissipate?

I really cannot say how long it might take. Mentally we create thought-forms, and every time we dwell on a thought-form we feed it energy. When we stop dwelling on it then we stop feeding it energy, but the more energy that thought-form has then the longer it will take to dissipate.

Originally Posted by janielee

2. Can you explain a little more re: energy follows thought please - as in vibrationally? There is different energy with different thoughts? But how does it come together per se.

The process of creating thought-forms begins with a seed-thought on the mental plane. That seed-thought will attract mental elementals of a corresponding vibration which coalesce around the seed-thought to create a thought-form. If the thought-form becomes strong enough (ie if we feed it enough energy) it then descends to the astral plane where it will attract astral elementals of a corresponding vibration. These astral elementals imbue the thought-form with vitality and a magnetic quality. The thought-form now has more substance. If we continue to feed it then it can descend onto the etheric levels, where it can manifest physically if the conditions are right.

This is the process of magical creation. It applies to both lofty spiritual thoughts and also lower thoughts and fears. Therefore we have to be careful what we focus on.

Originally Posted by janielee

3. Is the inverse true in your EXPERIENCE? And even if so, isn't it a little artificial/fake to fake a feeling or thought to TRY to get something in return?

We are often told that the brain responds in the same way to a real experience and that same experience in our imagination. So it might feel artificial to fake a feeling or a thought, but if it works then it works.

Peace.

Thank you for that, iamthat

Grateful, namaste.

JL

[iamthat]

An interesting story from anomalyinfo on the manifestation of thought-forms as told by Alexandra David-Neel, a European woman who travelled extensively in Tibet in the 1920s and later wrote about her experiences.

She decided to experiment with creating a tulpa. A tulpa is a sort of illusion created by the mind; it can look like anything, and can be mistaken for real. In extreme cases, these illusions can be solid and, if of a living being, can take on a life of their own and possibly outlive their creator.

Having seen tulpas and learned, theoretically, how they were made, David-Neel decided to try to create one herself; and so she isolated herself and performed the various rituals and techniques she had learned. As the object of her experiment, she decided to envision a short, fat monk, an innocent and jolly type of person.

The initial part of her experiment took a few months, and consisted of her creating a living image in her mind of the jolly monk, complete to every detail. She practiced imagining this monk as constantly doing things around her that a real person would be expected to do and, over time, her idea of him became both fixed and life-like. This monk was essentially a 'guest' that shared the apartment she was staying in while performing this stage of the test.

At this point, David-Neel ended her seclusion and gathered her servants and tents to resume her tour of the country. To her perception, the illusion of the monk persisted and he appeared to include himself in the group as they traveled, often seen by her performing actions that would be natural to travelers. David-Neel no longer needed to actively think about the monk for him to be seen and take action now; and, stranger still, she could now occasionally feel the monk... his robe sometimes rubbed past her, and on one occasion she thought she felt his hand on her shoulder.

A little more alarmingly, as the illusion started to act on its own and become more than just visual, the features she had initially envisioned for the monk also started to change. He became leaner and meaner looking; and he started to be "more troublesome and bold." David-Neel was losing control of her imagined monk.

One day, a herdsman brought a present of butter to David-Neel... and saw the tulpa in her tent. He just thought she had a Lama visiting. This incident appears to be the turning point for David-Neel; the out-of-control tulpa was starting to be real to other people... so she realized she needed to end the experiment. The effort to dissolve the tulpa -- to end her own built up belief in its existence -- took six months to fully accomplish.

Interesting.

Peace.