Taming Ones Imagination

[davidsun]

Originally Posted by hallow

that is great and there's nothing wrong at all in what you are saying. But to truly understand Both sides of what we really are wouldn't one want to know and understand the "wild/animal" part of ourselves as well. I think a lot of people try and succed in repressing that side of ourselves often deleting that part all together. Losing a part of ourselves. Yes we may become more spiritual but the root of what is spiritual gets "deleted"
There's a survival T.V. show I like to watch. It's called "alone". 10 people are chosen dropped off in 10 separate remote areas alone with only the minimum survival tools. No food, water, shelter or any other people. They can push a button and go home at anytime. The last person standing wins a million dollars. After watching many seasons of this show. You see spiritually evolve in it's rawest form. You see it happen in some of the most hardcore toughest people you can imagine. I believe from what I seen that's where it all truly starts. It begins in our inner "beast" if it didn't start there your only going through the motions to keep up with what is trending. It's not real. Spiritually is definitely real but you cannot skip steps.

Did you see anything in what I wrote which implied 'repression' or 'elimination'? What part of 'befriending' (taming) and 'friendship' don't you understand?

Do people on the survival (million dollar competition!) show become 'friendly'? Speaking of skipping 'spiritual' 'steps'!

[hallow]

Originally Posted by davidsun

Did you see anything in what I wrote which implied 'repression' or 'elimination'? What part of 'befriending' (taming) and 'friendship' don't you understand?

Do people on the survival (million dollar competition!) show become 'friendly'? Speaking of skipping 'spiritual' 'steps'!

I apologise, I may have misunderstood.
The people in the show who spend a great deal of on the show come back with a completely different look on there life. The funny thing is the people with the biggest ego are typically the first to quit. But to watch that transition in the people who go as long as they can makes me think on how the thought of spiritually began in humans distant past. I read a lot about the beginning of humanity and know of the constant hunger, pain,and suffering that was everyday life. All things we take for granted now. Reading about is one thing but watching it brings a whole different light. The contestants endure near to the same lifestyle going in with the average mindset and leaving a new person. I have read articles about that show on how some contestants needing professional help transitioning back to "normal" life. Guess the show really makes me think. There so many people walking around this world who don't believe anything they can't see (I used to be one of those)or people who jump on and off the trending bandwagon. But often not until everything is stripped away and your left on your own, alone and feel it. One could never understand the power, meaning and importance of what we label spiritual whatever is spiritual to you.

[davidsun]

Originally Posted by hallow

I apologise, I may have misunderstood.
The people in the show who spend a great deal of on the show come back with a completely different look on there life. The funny thing is the people with the biggest ego are typically the first to quit. But to watch that transition in the people who go as long as they can makes me think on how the thought of spiritually began in humans distant past. I read a lot about the beginning of humanity and know of the constant hunger, pain,and suffering that was everyday life. All things we take for granted now. Reading about is one thing but watching it brings a whole different light. The contestants endure near to the same lifestyle going in with the average mindset and leaving a new person. I have read articles about that show on how some contestants needing professional help transitioning back to "normal" life. Guess the show really makes me think. There so many people walking around this world who don't believe anything they can't see (I used to be one of those)or people who jump on and off the trending bandwagon. But often not until everything is stripped away and your left on your own, alone and feel it. One could never understand the power, meaning and importance of what we label spiritual whatever is spiritual to you.

Yes, any 'game' (especially if it is 'challenging') is a stimulus/opportunity for the 'player' to 'intimately' encounter her/his own thought and feeling propensities and 'master' them - as opposed to their 'governing' her/him - this, to whatever extent that s/he can figure out how 'to play well' with them.

I 'get' what you are saying about those and other 'shows' which 'drama'tize contests. There is much truth in the saying that "Sports are 'Western' yoga."

hallow!

[davidsun]

Here are four links (each a 15 or so minute segment) to a documentary about Monty Roberts who was the first (maybe) 'Horse Whisperer' to 'tame' wild horses without 'breaking' them. He later on used the same principles to 'rehabilitate' juvenile delinquents. Lots of great pointers (I found his 'practice' very educational) which may be adapted so as to be functionally applied towards 'taming' wild emotions, one's own or those of others.

Part 1: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7SE7YAhnoxI

Part 2: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=uhWI73fH54U

Part 3: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=4YP4as-ILhc

Part 4:https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=TmIOkpWQKYU

There are some (looks like) hebrew subtitles, but the documentary is in english.

Here is a link to the Wikipedia write up of Monty:

https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Monty_Roberts

Enjoy!

[utopiandreamchild]

My imagination does not run wild, I am the master of my mind, it does my bidding and works solely for me when I call upon it. Amen

[davidsun]

Originally Posted by utopiandreamchild

My imagination does not run wild, I am the master of my mind, it does my bidding and works solely for me when I call upon it. Amen

You declaring that, or are you making a 'prayerful' affirmation?

[utopiandreamchild]

Originally Posted by davidsun

You declaring that, or are you making a 'prayerful' affirmation?

Sounds like an affirmation but it's just a statement. Amen

[hallow]

Originally Posted by davidsun

Yes, any 'game' (especially if it is 'challenging') is a stimulus/opportunity for the 'player' to 'intimately' encounter her/his own thought and feeling propensities and 'master' them - as opposed to their 'governing' her/him - this, to whatever extent that s/he can figure out how 'to play well' with them.

I 'get' what you are saying about those and other 'shows' which 'drama'tize contests. There is much truth in the saying that "Sports are 'Western' yoga."

hallow!

it's a really interesting show and hard to explain. I am the the type of person to always ask how and why and try apply a logic to things. Even unintentionally, this show helped me to really understand how any kind of spiritually begins in a person without being influenced by others. Before I only knew of reglious and other spiritual ways typically being influenced by someone else. Being raised Lutheran by strict Lutheran leaders. My parents weren't strict about it. But the others in the church were. Over time my beliefs have evolved and never understand why. Now I'm starting to understanding how it all works. When I was a child I used to like going to church and Sunday school. To me that time was story time. Who doesn't like storytime. But that was that. Up until the last couple years to me religion and other beliefs were nothing but a fairy tale. That show helped me to see and understand regardless of your beliefs. That level of spirituality is real there's no way to fake, pretend,or just go through the motions on what these people are experiencing and the changes that happen. The best thing is the show isn't intended to be religious or spiritual. It's simply a show where your left alone to survive in the wilderness.

[BigJohn]

Originally Posted by hallow

it's a really interesting show and hard to explain. I am the the type of person to always ask how and why and try apply a logic to things. Even unintentionally, this show helped me to really understand how any kind of spiritually begins in a person without being influenced by others. Before I only knew of reglious and other spiritual ways typically being influenced by someone else. Being raised Lutheran by strict Lutheran leaders. My parents weren't strict about it. But the others in the church were. Over time my beliefs have evolved and never understand why. Now I'm starting to understanding how it all works. When I was a child I used to like going to church and Sunday school. To me that time was story time. Who doesn't like storytime. But that was that. Up until the last couple years to me religion and other beliefs were nothing but a fairy tale. That show helped me to see and understand regardless of your beliefs. That level of spirituality is real there's no way to fake, pretend,or just go through the motions on what these people are experiencing and the changes that happen. The best thing is the show isn't intended to be religious or spiritual. It's simply a show where your left alone to survive in the wilderness.

Hollow, I used to love to go to countries in which I did not know their language and then get lost on one of their streets.

I had some of the most unbelievable experiences doing that.

[hallow]

Originally Posted by BigJohn

Hollow, I used to love to go to countries in which I did not know their language and then get lost on one of their streets.

I had some of the most unbelievable experiences doing that.

I used to do that too but not in different countries. I really miss those days. Just to get in your car an go with no plans or place in mind to go. I just went. That was before family and all that other stuff. Now everything has to be planned out. Hhhhhhmmmmm, you got me thinking... I am to the point again in my life I can make that happen again. Just a lot smarter now. I see a surprise road trip in my near future