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Yoohoo, I'm so happy for you! :)

Of course I will miss you, but you should follow your heart and your dream and do what's right for you. It sounds like you will have a great time!
Thank you.

I am going to miss you as well.
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All of this can be found in the Vigyan Bhairav Tantra, where Lord Shiva answers all your questions in 112 ways.

There was another branch of that lineage tree you are talking about there....

Lord Shiva taught this Kriya Yoga to Parvati, but there was a scribe present to make the teachings known to mankind..his name? Matsyendranath.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matsyendra

Matsyendra started the Kaula sect and the "Nath" sub-lineage of the Kaula tradition...He codified Hatha Yoga some 500 years before Swami Svatmarama wrote the Hatha Yoga Pradipika and was even said to be an incarnation of Avilokiteshvara Buddha who started the whole school of Tantric Shaivism/Vajrayana Buddhism based on Dharana..or... Mindfulness!

This, of course, occurred 1,000 years after Lord Shiva appeared in the form of Lakulisha and started the Pashupati sect of Tantric Kriya Yoga:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakulisha

I have traced my lineage all the way back to the Indus Valley Civilization...and the Kaula tradition, the Nath tradition, the Pashupati tradition, through all the incarnations of Shiva and Babaji...pretty neat eh?

What you have typed above is nothing new to me...it is but a small drop in the ocean that I already know about and I could write a few books on it...but Alain Danielou beat me to it half a century ago and Christopher Hareesh Wallis has done everything that I could ever do in regards to writing it all down.

Between Alain Danielou, Christopher Wallis and David Frawley, I must admit some degree of literary defeatism here.

By the way...I answered your first question via PM at 8:30 am...had a chance to look at it yet?

I'm gonna miss this place...I have so much to teach, but no students...which pretty much sucks...

Did look at it but need to think over it more.

Will let you know soon....

What concerns me more is the fear of the unknown.I do not exactly know what happened or is happening exactly i.e. I need to know the problem somewhat,if posssible
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All of this can be found in the Vigyan Bhairav Tantra, where Lord Shiva answers all your questions in 112 ways.

There was another branch of that lineage tree you are talking about there....

Lord Shiva taught this Kriya Yoga to Parvati, but there was a scribe present to make the teachings known to mankind..his name? Matsyendranath.

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Matsyendra

Matsyendra started the Kaula sect and the "Nath" sub-lineage of the Kaula tradition...He codified Hatha Yoga some 500 years before Swami Svatmarama wrote the Hatha Yoga Pradipika and was even said to be an incarnation of Avilokiteshvara Buddha who started the whole school of Tantric Shaivism/Vajrayana Buddhism based on Dharana..or... Mindfulness!

This, of course, occurred 1,000 years after Lord Shiva appeared in the form of Lakulisha and started the Pashupati sect of Tantric Kriya Yoga:

https://en.m.wikipedia.org/wiki/Lakulisha

I have traced my lineage all the way back to the Indus Valley Civilization...and the Kaula tradition, the Nath tradition, the Pashupati tradition, through all the incarnations of Shiva and Babaji...pretty neat eh?

What you have typed above is nothing new to me...it is but a small drop in the ocean that I already know about and I could write a few books on it...but Alain Danielou beat me to it half a century ago and Christopher Hareesh Wallis has done everything that I could ever do in regards to writing it all down.

Between Alain Danielou, Christopher Wallis and David Frawley, I must admit some degree of literary defeatism here.

By the way...I answered your first question via PM at 8:30 am...had a chance to look at it yet?

I'm gonna miss this place...I have so much to teach, but no students...which pretty much sucks...

I have read almost all of those. The problem is that a normal person cannot find out those secrets even after reading them.

Only an yogi who has already done it can.

Sometime there is even not a general secret.It is given specifically to a person by a yogi based on the person.
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Do you happen to know in which text can I find about Hanuman ji mantra given to the great warrior Arjuna by Lord Krishna
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I have read almost all of those. The problem is that a normal person cannot find out those secrets even after reading them.

Only an yogi who has already done it can.

Sometime there is even not a general secret.It is given specifically to a person by a yogi based on the person.
That is the problem, isn't it?

I can read a Hindu text like the Vigyan Bhairav Tantra or the Shvetashvatara Upanishad or the Shivarahasya Purana or Patanjali's Sutras and understand it immediately without anything having to be explained to me...however, trying to relate what I know about it to another party is a very different story...even Hindu scholars are not at my level of understanding their religion and this pretty much drives me crazy...

Were the scriptures written for ME alone? It would sure seem like it...and I never went anywhere to learn it...must be a "past life" thing.

I can try and make it easier for you..

According to Patanjali, there are EIGHT limbs of Yoga (Kriya).

Pranayama is only ONE part of the jigsaw puzzle, not the whole thing.

Ritual/purification, Observance, Posture, Breathing, Sense Withdrawal, Mindfulness, Meditation, Enlightenment...All of these processes need to be employed in an well-rounded practice of Kriya Yoga.

The most important thing...Ishwara Pranidhana or surrender to God.

Why fear the unknown when He is the master OF Niskala? Of both Sekala and Niskala? (The known and the unknown)?

If you see Lord Shiva in His aspect of Kaala Bhairava, would you be afraid?
It is only Lord Shiva putting on His "Halloween costume" to scare the easily scared...reminding them that mortality is unavoidable...so?
Underneath the mask, He is the same beautiful, lovable Deity and if your heart remains open, your "inner eye" can see through the subterfuge to the glowing being, the Deva underneath the Yaksha Rupam (the demonic form of God).

This is the reason why I love Lord Shiva...Mahadeva...Mahakaal! It is all one in the same thing...Good/Evil...Light/Dark...Sekala/Niskala...beauty/ugliness all wrapped up into One and thus, I am not afraid. I have looked upon His face and all of my fear was gone.

For you see, Lord Shiva did not just instruct Parvati..

He assumed the form of Dakshinamurthy, faced South and instructed the Sapta Rishis (the 7 Ascended Masters) and the 4 Sanat Kumaras (The Child founders of the Hindu faith) without uttering a single word!

He did not say anything! NOTHING!

Lord Shiva let His "rarified vibration" do all the talking, while He just sat there with half-closed eyes in ecstatic bliss-trance...raising His right hand in the chin mudra/Gyan mudra occasionally to give Shaktipat.

This is just so profoundly wonderful... something only a bhakta can appreciate...
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That is the problem, isn't it?

I can read a Hindu text like the Vigyan Bhairav Tantra or the Shvetashvatara Upanishad or the Shivarahasya Purana or Patanjali's Sutras and understand it immediately without anything having to be explained to me...however, trying to relate what I know about it to another party is a very different story...even Hindu scholars are not at my level of understanding their religion and this pretty much drives me crazy...

Were the scriptures written for ME alone? It would sure seem like it...and I never went anywhere to learn it...must be a "past life" thing.

I can try and make it easier for you..

According to Patanjali, there are EIGHT limbs of Yoga (Kriya).

Pranayama is only ONE part of the jigsaw puzzle, not the whole thing.

Ritual/purification, Observance, Posture, Breathing, Sense Withdrawal, Mindfulness, Meditation, Enlightenment...All of these processes need to be employed in an well-rounded practice of Kriya Yoga.

The most important thing...Ishwara Pranidhana or surrender to God.

Why fear the unknown when He is the master OF Niskala? Of both Sekala and Niskala? (The known and the unknown)?

If you see Lord Shiva in His aspect of Kaala Bhairava, would you be afraid?
It is only Lord Shiva putting on His "Halloween costume" to scare the easily scared...reminding them that mortality is unavoidable...so?
Underneath the mask, He is the same beautiful, lovable Deity and if your heart remains open, your "inner eye" can see through the subterfuge to the glowing being, the Deva underneath the Yaksha Rupam (the demonic form of God).

This is the reason why I love Lord Shiva...Mahadeva...Mahakaal! It is all one in the same thing...Good/Evil...Light/Dark...Sekala/Niskala...beauty/ugliness all wrapped up into One and thus, I am not afraid. I have looked upon His face and all of my fear was gone.

For you see, Lord Shiva did not just instruct Parvati..

He assumed the form of Dakshinamurthy, faced South and instructed the Sapta Rishis (the 7 Ascended Masters) and the 4 Sanat Kumaras (The Child founders of the Hindu faith) without uttering a single word!

He did not say anything! NOTHING!

Lord Shiva let His "rarified vibration" do all the talking, while He just sat there with half-closed eyes in ecstatic bliss-trance...raising His right hand in the chin mudra/Gyan mudra occasionally to give Shaktipat.

This is just so profoundly wonderful... something only a bhakta can appreciate...

I do accept the surrender thing about dispelling the fear of the unknown.

But any chance you can ask my second question to Shiv ji ? If not then just let me know

There is this story I read today.

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Blind surrender without practicality won't lead anywhere.




The secrets or hidden principles are based on some deep technicalliti es....
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