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Old 26-05-2012, 01:42 PM
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i always try to live my life with the middle path, but it's really breaking my heart.
many people see me as two face and superficial because i don't want to take aside and tend to be neutral.
i am patience enough to swallow the hatreds and angers of other people for "my middle path" attitudes, but it's really hurt me bad and i lose some friends because of that.

i guess i'm not wise enough for the middle path.
sigh...
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Old 26-05-2012, 06:58 PM
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i always try to live my life with the middle path, but it's really breaking my heart.
many people see me as two face and superficial because i don't want to take aside and tend to be neutral.
i am patience enough to swallow the hatreds and angers of other people for "my middle path" attitudes, but it's really hurt me bad and i lose some friends because of that.

i guess i'm not wise enough for the middle path.
sigh...


I don't know if walking the middle path necessarily means one doesn't ''take sides''. There is truth out there, and often times we have to weigh up the truth from both sides to find the 'answer', or the 'middle way'.

I think the middle way is something we have to follow in our lives, but I think we also need to see that being passive, and soft, in our dealings with others on issues where there is a 'truth', is NOT what the middle way is about. Walking the middle path shouldn't mean we are silent or indecisive on issues where we should take a stand. It really means just staying 'in the spirit', while doing so.
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Old 26-05-2012, 11:10 PM
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As I experience it, the middle path is not about trying to balance extremes or doing or not doing anything externally. It's giving my attention into my center, my inner being. Everything gradually comes into balance from this center point.

If you look into your chest with your intuitive seeing you may see a seed light that is the gateway to the middle or center of your being. Then breathe into that... and make it a habit.


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Old 27-05-2012, 04:38 PM
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Thank you so much for this thread, I really appreciate it.

May I take a short turn and ask why Buddhism is so complicated, when all that is really needed/sought is the middle way?
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Old 27-05-2012, 06:37 PM
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As I experience it, the middle path is not about trying to balance extremes or doing or not doing anything externally. It's giving my attention into my center, my inner being. Everything gradually comes into balance from this center point.

If you look into your chest with your intuitive seeing you may see a seed light that is the gateway to the middle or center of your being. Then breathe into that... and make it a habit.


Xan

No, i'm not "not doing anything", but i always take the "moderate" actions.

Thanks for the advice
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Old 30-05-2012, 05:04 PM
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catatonic:
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i always try to live my life with the middle path, but it's really breaking my heart.
many people see me as two face and superficial because i don't want to take aside and tend to be neutral.
i am patience enough to swallow the hatreds and angers of other people for "my middle path" attitudes, but it's really hurt me bad and i lose some friends because of that.

i guess i'm not wise enough for the middle path.
sigh...

Why is there a perspective that the, "middle path", is dependant upon how others think, or act?

Siddhartha had said, that,
"if the string is too loose, the instrument will not play, too tight, and it will break."
Seems some here are wound a little tight?

Seems, some still regard that this world is as real as it seems.

“There is, O monks, an Unborn, Unoriginated, Uncreated, Unformed."
(Re: God)

"Were there not, O monks, this Unborn, Unoriginated, Uncreated, Unformed, there would be no escape from the world of the born, originated, created, formed.

Since, O monks, there is an Unborn, Unoriginated, Uncreated, Unformed, therefore is there an escape from that born, originated, created, formed.

What is dependent, that also moves;
what is independent does not move.
Where there is no movement, there is rest;
where rest is, there is no desire; where there is no desire, there is neither coming nor going; no ceasing-to-be; no further coming-to-be.
Where there is no ceasing-to-be, no further coming-to-be, there is neither this shore (this world) nor the other shore (Nibbana31),
nor anything between them. 32 Udana 8:3
(Cf. translation in Minor Anthologies, pg. 98.)

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"So we fix our eyes not on what is seen but on what is unseen. For what is seen is temporary, but what is unseen is eternal."
II Corinthians 4:18

Jesus also came to dispel "Maya" the illusion, and lie.

Regarding, "Salvation"...."Saved "means rescued, as by another.
....We must accept that we are saved.
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"The sixth aspect of the path is Right Effort.
Wrong effort is struggle.

One often approaches a spiritual discipline as though one needs to conquer one's "evil side" and promote our "good side."
One is locked in combat with one's self and tries to obliterate the tiniest negative tendency.

Right Effort doesn't involve struggle at all.
When one sees things as they are, one can work with them, gently, and without any aggression."
The Eightfold Path - Buddhist Teaching
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- Think about a Lifeguard trying to rescue a drowning person.
The impediment comes when the person struggles. The rescuer must render that person relaxed, or immoble, so that they can bring them safely to shore.

We see that Jesus equated, "the world, the flesh, and the devil", together.
What does this tell us..?

Who is, "Mara" after all, in Buddhism? The devil, "deciever", and, source of illusion?

Speaking about Ego, the relationship of Ego and Desire to this fallen, and illusionary physical world...
Didn't Jesus and Siddharta the Buddha say similiar?
Jesus spoke about Ego and Desire Saying trust God for the physical, and to lay up treasure not in this world, but in Heaven.

http://hiddenlighthouse.wordpress.com/category/descension/
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Old 30-05-2012, 07:27 PM
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I like your post, Morpheus, and your signature... true thoughts.... and the linked page too.


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Old 31-05-2012, 12:15 AM
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I like your post, Morpheus, and your signature... true thoughts.... and the linked page too.


Xan

Yes I agree. Morpheus's post seemed very useful and well constructed.
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Old 31-05-2012, 04:14 PM
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Thanks for the compliments.

So, the, "middle path", or, "way", has to do with awareness which changes us.
I think it is Buddha who stated,
"The journey of a thousand miles begins with one step."

Awareness of the greater truth and reality, and, thoughts pertaining thereto will enable the individual to transcend, more and more...proceeding in, "The Way".

If you look in the listings in the link page, above, you will find in the, "Evolution" or, "DNA", link, in the list, related information.

Of course, the visual illustration of all of this, is seen in the Wachowski's ingenius cinematic work, of, "The Matrix".
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Old 28-06-2012, 04:25 AM
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Regardless of your belief system, Think of mortal Life as the Middle Path as it resides between in a realm between "pure thought" and "no thought." A place where possibility, can be manifested and experienced, yet delightfully impermanent
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