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02-06-2020, 01:31 AM
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Knower
Join Date: Mar 2020
Location: Pacific Northwest
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Heaven on Earth
Watching the recent vandalism and looting on television, I know life is either Heaven or Hell, depending on what we make of it.
I turn off my television and return to my heaven: my patio, my chair, and a pack of smokes.
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I have the Earth, Sun, Moon and Stars; good company of those around me; a bed and pillow on which to sleep; a potato and butter to eat; the present moment to use as I please. Heaven.
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02-06-2020, 03:39 AM
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Master
Join Date: Oct 2017
Posts: 5,089
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I'd say that we're located in "Heaven" and are dreaming the "Earth". Depending on some heavenly stimuli, we sometimes experience nightmares during our earthly dreams.
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Everything expressed here is what I believe. Keep that in mind when you read my post, as I kept it in mind when I wrote it. I don't parrot others. Most of my spiritual beliefs come from direct channeling guidance. I have no interest in arguing whose belief is right, and whose is wrong. I'm here just to express my opinions, and read about others'.
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02-06-2020, 01:13 PM
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Hi... For me, I can only describe some events in this planet as "hell" , for I cannot imagine anything worse , anywhere, even in the lower realms. But as Inavalan said , are we only "dreaming" earth, this experience? Because according to my son, when he was 6, none of this is real, it's all a dream, and we don't wake up to the real existence until we die!
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02-06-2020, 02:09 PM
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Master
Join Date: Apr 2018
Location: Everywhere... and Nowhere
Posts: 6,631
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I think in many things our world can already be seen as a heaven. It is human civilization and societies that create hells on earth.
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06-07-2020, 04:28 AM
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Master
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Auckland New Zealand
Posts: 1,905
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Heaven is unrealized and we can only imagine it to be at this point in time. If heaven was real then there would be physical evidence of it. Physical evidence is all that matters, its real and is an undeniable fact. The rest is simply imagined. Like god for instance, we imagine him to be/exist but there's no concrete/physical evidence of god. Reality saying god doesn't exist else he'd be here but he ain't. Heaven is a place that some go to when they pass to the other side and also where some are born from into a new life experience. We can only at this point in time imagine it to be, but it lacks physical evidence. Not that it can't be real at some point in time,it just isn't at the moment. Amen
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06-07-2020, 04:52 AM
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Master
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: अनुगृहितोऽस्म
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Last I knew, Heaven and Earth is located in Vermont. The owner was moving to New Zealand......
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Happiness is the result of an enlightened mind whereas suffering is caused by a distorted mind.
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06-07-2020, 05:05 AM
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Master
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Auckland New Zealand
Posts: 1,905
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigJohn
Last I knew, Heaven and Earth is located in Vermont. The owner was moving to New Zealand......
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Heaven is a place where everything is healthy and thriving we are obviously not at that point at this time,not that we couldn't be at sometime in the future but no just yet. Therefore I say heaven is yet to be realized the same as paradise on earth. Amen
Last edited by utopiandreamchild : 06-07-2020 at 06:23 AM.
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11-07-2020, 08:39 PM
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Master
Join Date: May 2019
Location: Auckland New Zealand
Posts: 1,905
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Quote:
Originally Posted by utopiandreamchild
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Heaven is a place where everything is healthy and thriving we are obviously not at that point at this time,not that we couldn't be at sometime in the future but no just yet. Therefore I say heaven is yet to be realized the same as paradise on earth. Amen
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I imagine heaven to be above the clouds line overlooking the earth. And people go there when they pass. Everything there is healthy and thriving and there is no pain or suffering and most importantly there's no hatred, just love. Amen
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12-07-2020, 11:06 PM
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Master
Join Date: Mar 2014
Posts: 6,385
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Quote:
Originally Posted by utopiandreamchild
Heaven is unrealized and we can only imagine it to be at this point in time. If heaven was real then there would be physical evidence of it. Physical evidence is all that matters, its real and is an undeniable fact. The rest is simply imagined. Like god for instance, we imagine him to be/exist but there's no concrete/physical evidence of god. Reality saying god doesn't exist else he'd be here but he ain't. Heaven is a place that some go to when they pass to the other side and also where some are born from into a new life experience. We can only at this point in time imagine it to be, but it lacks physical evidence. Not that it can't be real at some point in time,it just isn't at the moment. Amen
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there is such a thing as physicality that has not yet been recognized, is the problem with such. Our default stance is that if we haven't recognized specifically with scientific instrumentation it doesn't exist... which has already been proven wrong over and over as the instrumentation has gotten better.
Sigh.
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13-07-2020, 12:37 AM
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Master
Join Date: Sep 2018
Location: अनुगृहितोऽस्म
Posts: 16,048
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Quote:
Originally Posted by BigJohn
Last I knew, Heaven and Earth is located in Vermont. The owner was moving to New Zealand......
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If you want to find out more about Heaven and Earth, here is their website https://heavenandearthjewelry.com/
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Happiness is the result of an enlightened mind whereas suffering is caused by a distorted mind.
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