God / Satan: agents of divison & contrast

Good and evil, and what comprises good and evil, are written into the very fabric of the universe, as per God's plan.

However, Free Will trumps all. We are absolutely free to do as we want, within the scope of our circumstance, because it is God's will in this shared universe that it be so. This does not mean, however, there is no consequence. On the contrary, consequence is the other side of action, always.

Where we defy God's will - which is that we all should freely express who we are as much as possible - it diminishes us. Where we support God's will, it grows us. This does not mean on a physical level, where the law of the jungle prevails - that is, after all, what spiritual practice seeks to transcend - it is on the soul level. This causes a lot of confusion for a lot of people, but it really is that simple.

[lemex]

Originally Posted by Shivani Devi

I am sorry. I really have to say that I didn't understand any of that (I am unable to see myself in others).

Corrected my thought, sorry I meant to say consider from the perspective of the person, people will say they do good and can never say it was done for the wrong reason or they are wrong. Something I just noticed. I agree with the idea presented and see it to. If it is good it is good, if it is bad, it is said it is not bad or done for good.

[Shivani Devi]

Originally Posted by lemex

Corrected my thought, sorry I meant to say consider from the perspective of the person, people will say the do good and can never say it was done for the wrong reason or they were wrong. Something I just noticed. I agree with the idea presented and see it to.

Thank you for the clarification. It is just that these concepts are very difficult to understand for one such as myself who lacks any Theory of Mind and so, instead of seeing myself in relation to "other" I have had to forgo any notion of connection OR separation in that regard, because this is something I have not personally experienced and therefore, cannot even begin to understand or conceptualise it when others speak of such.... it all just appears like random words on a screen that I cannot even relate to.

As such, due to this birth defect, I have had to concentrate solely upon myself and try to forget about what everybody else is doing...try to ignore everything else going on outside my own skull or my "sphere of immediate influence" and so, such notions of "becoming one with all humanity" is totally lost on me...however "becoming one with God" is not as that transcends what I perceive as being "self" and "other" anyway (in any human sense of reference).

Some will judge me as being "narcissistic" or "selfish" in the attempt to make me feel something that just isn't there because I cannot feel shame or guilt either and I don't know why...so all I can say is "nah, I am just insane and can't be held responsible for my actions because I don't know any better" and that seems to shut them up enough to run away and let me get on with doing my own thing irrespective OF them.

@Kioma

Yes, we have free will...I am just surprised to see many people giving that away...trading it for "safety" and a false sense of security because they are totally insecure in the first place...at first it pained me to see people willingly give up their basic human rights when the alternative was death...now, it is "not my problem" because nobody can do anything about it because that is just the way the world IS....by jove, I think she's got it! lol

[freddyfresh]

Originally Posted by Shivani Devi

I am sorry. I really have to say that I didn't understand any of that (I am unable to see myself in others).

All I know is that it is a total waste of time trying to make sense out of the senseless. Some people can accept it for what it is - that is, if they can reach the understanding of what it "is" they are to be accepting of.

Other people cannot because they just aren't as spiritually advanced/awakened as the aforementioned...so their only choice is to either give in to the game...give into the fear, conspiracy, anxiety and panic, or to live their life in delusion, pretending that none of it is real/true...that it is all a big lie spun by those who have the ability to alter our perception and thus influence our beliefs and behaviour. I am in the latter category....the things that others see and accept as being real, I don't have to believe those things if I don't WANT to (choose NOT to) and I don't HAVE to either!

Of course I am labeled as being "insane" but I have learned to live with that label of certificaton....I wear it like a badge of honour.

One good thing about playing THAT game is that people automatically assume that you are not responsible for your actions because you don't know any better, so nobody questions your motives or asks you to explain yourself...they just shrug their shoulders and give you a wide berth....and that suits me just FINE.

You see, whilever people worry about the future...all of the "what if's?"....all of the "if this...then that"..they are immediately taken out of the present moment...the mindfulness of being in the now.

Whilever vested interests get us to think about the suffering of others at their hands and the likelihood that we are going to be next, we are forced to make the trade-off and to choose between empathy and gratitude....we can feel sad and sorry for what is happening to others OR we can be thankful for what we have.

As unfortunate as it is, for the preservation of my own sanity and mental health, I cannot entertain any ideas of what is happening "out there" beyond my own neighbourhood...my own family and my immediate situation, because I can SEE that with my own eyes. For everything else, I need to trust the media and the government enough to take their "word for it" when it comes to believing what is real or true...and that will never happen.

I have reached the conclusion that ALL news is "fake news" and that ALL information is "disinformation"...so what does one do when they reach that point?

They go and walk the dog, water the garden, have a cup of tea, do a crossword, listen to music, clean the stove, wash their hair, meditate, do some gratitude journalling, pray etc...etc...then say "what the hell is a Covid-19? Never heard of it".

There will be many many many more Covids after this one. I will be tending the garden as well during these "episodes"

[enterhere]

Originally Posted by Shivani Devi

I am sorry. I really have to say that I didn't understand any of that (I am unable to see myself in others).

All I know is that it is a total waste of time trying to make sense out of the senseless. Some people can accept it for what it is - that is, if they can reach the understanding of what it "is" they are to be accepting of.

Other people cannot because they just aren't as spiritually advanced/awakened as the aforementioned...so their only choice is to either give in to the game...give into the fear, conspiracy, anxiety and panic, or to live their life in delusion, pretending that none of it is real/true...that it is all a big lie spun by those who have the ability to alter our perception and thus influence our beliefs and behaviour. I am in the latter category....the things that others see and accept as being real, I don't have to believe those things if I don't WANT to (choose NOT to) and I don't HAVE to either!

Of course I am labeled as being "insane" but I have learned to live with that label of certificaton....I wear it like a badge of honour.

One good thing about playing THAT game is that people automatically assume that you are not responsible for your actions because you don't know any better, so nobody questions your motives or asks you to explain yourself...they just shrug their shoulders and give you a wide berth....and that suits me just FINE.

You see, whilever people worry about the future...all of the "what if's?"....all of the "if this...then that"..they are immediately taken out of the present moment...the mindfulness of being in the now.

Whilever vested interests get us to think about the suffering of others at their hands and the likelihood that we are going to be next, we are forced to make the trade-off and to choose between empathy and gratitude....we can feel sad and sorry for what is happening to others OR we can be thankful for what we have.

As unfortunate as it is, for the preservation of my own sanity and mental health, I cannot entertain any ideas of what is happening "out there" beyond my own neighbourhood...my own family and my immediate situation, because I can SEE that with my own eyes. For everything else, I need to trust the media and the government enough to take their "word for it" when it comes to believing what is real or true...and that will never happen.

I have reached the conclusion that ALL news is "fake news" and that ALL information is "disinformation"...so what does one do when they reach that point?

They go and walk the dog, water the garden, have a cup of tea, do a crossword, listen to music, clean the stove, wash their hair, meditate, do some gratitude journalling, pray etc...etc...then say "what the hell is a Covid-19? Never heard of it".

Nice response!