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Old 03-08-2019, 06:49 AM
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The silliness of calling Christ an "enlightened man"

It amazes me that people believe Jesus was an enlightened man rather than God incarnate. All one really need to do is establish a relationship with Him and you soon realise that He is very, very powerful and loving. His grace and holy spirit are far greater than any enlightened man could ever be.

2000 years of Christian first hand experience of His grace has shown that He is greater than a man. It is only those who have never tasted His love that believe Him to be an enlightened man.

Just think of all those billions of people who have worshipped Him over the years. There are hardly any who suddenly say "wait, Jesus is not God. He is only a man!" Experience of Him is the point here. Once you have tasted Him you KNOW.
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Old 03-08-2019, 07:30 AM
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It amazes me that people believe Jesus was an enlightened man rather than God incarnate. All one really need to do is establish a relationship with Him and you soon realise that He is very, very powerful and loving. His grace and holy spirit are far greater than any enlightened man could ever be.

2000 years of Christian first hand experience of His grace has shown that He is greater than a man. It is only those who have never tasted His love that believe Him to be an enlightened man.

Just think of all those billions of people who have worshipped Him over the years. There are hardly any who suddenly say "wait, Jesus is not God. He is only a man!" Experience of Him is the point here. Once you have tasted Him you KNOW.



Jesus was definitely ' Enlightened '


John 8:12

Then Jesus again spoke to them, saying, "I am the Light of the world; he who follows Me will not walk in the darkness, but will have the Light of life."


Samuel 22:29

For You are my lamp, O LORD; And the LORD illumines my darkness.


Isaiah 9:2

The people who walk in darkness Will see a great light; Those who live in a dark land, The light will shine on them.


Daniel 2:22

It is He who reveals the profound and hidden things; He knows what is in the darkness, And the light dwells with Him.


John 1:9

There was the true Light which, coming into the world, enlightens every man


Acts 13:47

For so the Lord has commanded us, 'I HAVE PLACED YOU AS A LIGHT FOR THE GENTILES, THAT YOU MAY BRING SALVATION TO THE END OF THE EARTH.



And many more Verses if you do a little research

No silliness at all.
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Old 03-08-2019, 09:56 AM
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You are missing the point as ever. I am not saying he was not enlightened....I am saying he was not an enlightened MAN.

Enlightened men cannot save souls. Jesus can. Jesus has far more Godliness than any enlightened man.
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Old 03-08-2019, 10:16 AM
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You are missing the point as ever. I am not saying he was not enlightened....I am saying he was not an enlightened MAN.

Enlightened men cannot save souls. Jesus can. Jesus has far more Godliness than any enlightened man.


He was definitely a MAN
I don't believe in a Soul so I can't comment on him saving them... or not. I would like evidence that he saved souls before I could think about that one....
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Old 03-08-2019, 01:30 PM
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He was definitely a MAN

Don't forget that is your version of things. I doubt you have the last word.
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Old 03-08-2019, 01:54 PM
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Don't forget that is your version of things. I doubt you have the last word.


So if he was not a Hu man Honza, please explain why? In your version of course
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Old 03-08-2019, 02:56 PM
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So if he was not a Hu man Honza, please explain why? In your version of course

That is in the NT.

I did explain part of the reason why in my original post.
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Old 03-08-2019, 09:57 AM
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sky123....please grow up and stop pretending you know everything.
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Old 03-08-2019, 10:20 AM
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sky123....please grow up and stop pretending you know everything.


OK .........
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sky123....please grow up and stop pretending you know everything.
The same goes for you.Just because you've read a book you think you know things?
Grow up.
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