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Old 09-06-2019, 06:17 PM
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And the Earth was without form, and void...

History records discussions about the first and second verses in Genesis 1, regarding Creation, as early as 1097 - 1141, and again in, 1583-1643.
First by Hugo St. Victor, and again by Simon Episcopius.

This, involving the question of global disaster after the initial creation of the Earth, and reintegration and reformation.

Point is, many think they know what the creation story says in the Bible, and can thereby dismiss it according to modern science theory.
But, while they think they know and understand, they don't.

If you scroll down at this below site to "Earths Age...", you will find the page to view.

https://www.ucg.org/bible-study-tool...-second-verses
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Old 09-06-2019, 06:43 PM
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History records discussions about the first and second verses in Genesis 1, regarding Creation, as early as 1097 - 1141, and again in, 1583-1643.
First by Hugo St. Victor, and again by Simon Episcopius.

This, involving the question of global disaster after the initial creation of the Earth, and reintegration and reformation.

Point is, many think they know what the creation story says in the Bible, and can thereby dismiss it according to modern science theory.
But, while they think they know and understand, they don't.

If you scroll down at this below site to "Earths Age...", you will find the page to view.

https://www.ucg.org/bible-study-tool...-second-verses




So where did Cain's Wife in the land of Nod come from?
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Old 09-06-2019, 06:54 PM
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So where did Cain's Wife in the land of Nod come from?

Oh good. Another diversion, and sidestep?

We are to understand that in the Patriarchal lifestyle in ancient times, females were not recorded in ancestral lineage, as were the males, as is evident.
There is also an unknown time element.

Another thing to note is that Adam is said to be made in the image of God, which may have been different from other humanoid creation.

Either way?
Beside the point of the O.P., which is about Creation of Earth, in scripture.
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Old 09-06-2019, 07:10 PM
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Oh good. Another diversion, and sidestep?

We are to understand that in the Patriarchal lifestyle in ancient times, females were not recorded in ancestral lineage as were the males, as is evident.
Either way? Beside the point of the O.P., which is about Creation of Earth in scripture.


No sidesteps just a bit of a puzzle which came to mind when you mentioned Genesis.

You see Morph there had to be another race of people who lived at the same time as Adam and Eve for there to be a Wife in Nod for Cain....

During their lives, Adam and Eve had a number of male and female children. In fact, the Jewish historian Josephus wrote, “The number of Adam’s children, as says the old tradition, was thirty-three Sons and twenty three Daughters.


Another puzzle....
Adam and Eve had 56 Children God help the poor Woman..


I'll keep my beliefs on Evolution, makes sense to me personally but to each their own.
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Old 09-06-2019, 07:14 PM
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No sidesteps just a bit of a puzzle which came to mind when you mentioned Genesis.

You see Morph there had to be another race of people who lived at the same time as Adam and Eve for there to be a Wife in Nod for Cain....

During their lives, Adam and Eve had a number of male and female children. In fact, the Jewish historian Josephus wrote, “The number of Adam’s children, as says the old tradition, was thirty-three Sons and twenty three Daughters.


Another puzzle....
Adam and Eve had 56 Children God help the poor Woman..


I'll keep my beliefs on Evolution, makes sense to me personally but to each their own.

Again, just diversion sky.
I answered with respect to recorded lineage, and time element.
Before the flood, how long were people living for?

Things change in, "space/time".
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Old 09-06-2019, 07:31 PM
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Again, just diversion sky.
I answered with respect to recorded lineage, and time element.
Before the flood, how long were people living for?

Things change in, "space/time".


Sorry I must have misunderstood you, where did Cain's wife come from? They say she's the most spoke about wife in history Do we even have a name for Her?
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Old 09-06-2019, 08:42 PM
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Sorry I must have misunderstood you, where did Cain's wife come from? They say she's the most spoke about wife in history Do we even have a name for Her?

Mrs. Cain?
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Old 10-06-2019, 05:21 AM
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Mrs. Cain?





I don't know how many times I got into trouble at School for asking about the Genesis Story which makes little sense to me

Not to worry though it's not important in reality, it's just a Story and doesn't take away the beauty and mystery of the Universe.
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Old 24-06-2019, 01:01 AM
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The Bible tells us exactly how the world began. There Must be a master creator. Forget about scientific theories like the Big Bang. It doesn't hold water.
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Old 24-06-2019, 06:13 AM
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The Bible tells us exactly how the world began. There Must be a master creator. Forget about scientific theories like the Big Bang. It doesn't hold water.


I agree with you that the Bible tells us how the writers thought the world began, but Science shows us the way cause and effect took place to create the ' Big Bang '.
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