Are The Majority Of Spiritual Mediums Wrong

[Patrycia-Rose]

I’ve been seeing mediums since the age of 15. My mother took me to see a medium she trusted and that started me on my spiritual pathway. This was just after my nan died and she came through loud and clear. I’ve been seeing mediums ever since a couple of times a year. There was one fantastic one I saw for about ten years but she’s retired now and it’s been a challenge to find someone else.

Like everything in life, there’s good and bad. I always think a sound place to start is the spiritualist church because any decent medium won’t be able to be a regular platform worker without being good at their craft. I’ve seen a few mediums in church, been impressed and then sought private sittings.
A true medium will not need to use cards or other divination methods. Some I’ve seen use them occasionally, or ask me to pick a card at the end of a sitting but I always say that I want mediumship, I’m not not interested in cards etc.

The purpose of a true medium is not to predict the future, but to give you evidence that your loved ones have passed to spirit and are very much alive and well in the spirit world.

[dream jo]

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I used to go to a Spiritualist Church for a while, here in the UK. I didn't come across even one genuine medium there. Even the "president" of the church was a fake. I once witnessed a thing where they tried to contact spirits and asked the spirits to move glasses to give answers. It was obvious they were moving the glasses around themselves.

I had originally contacted the president because I wanted spiritual advice as I was suffering lifelong extreme bad luck and wanted to know what is going on (this situation is still continuing by the way). I presented her with my life story, which I had typed out, and she was absolutely shocked - she had never come across someone with such extreme bad luck before. She then proceeded to say nothing other than "just think positively"! Great help - not! (by the way I have always been a very positive person). If that's the best she could come up with instead of investigating what's going on - then I have to say she has proven herself to be a fake.

She also did not remember having met me before, despite this only being a few years ago. Another time I presented her with a person that was of an extremely evil nature - which she failed to recognize. Some medium!

Being psychic myself, I was bitterly disappointed with everybody at the Spiritualist Church. The whole organization exists only to make money, and to keep the "president" and some other high up folks in their jobs.

Genuine mediums do exist, but they don't go round advertizing themselves or running to Spiritualist Churches. I wouldn't go to such a church again. It was disappointing because I had hoped to find spiritual people there, but all I encountered were a bunch of fakes and weirdos.

[CrystalSong]

In a Priestess Group I host a few weeks back one of the ladies suggested we do 'aspecting', something done in her tradition. Basically one writes down all the questions they want to ask a spirit and then drop into meditation and invite the spirit in and someone reads the questions to them and another writes the answers. The spirit can come into the persons auric field, into just their head and throat region, or down to their heart, or full body incorporation.

Everyone was able to incorporate their chosen entity and get answers to their questions except me (I have blocks to mediumship) so another girl incorporated the entity I wanted to speak to which was Jose Penteado one of the Entities who preforms psychic surgery's by incorporating through John of God.
Not only did he answer all my questions but gave me salient advice, gentle encouragement and tons of LOVE. I was in tears of humbleness and reverence the whole time. It was astounding! His energies filled the whole room so powerfully and the girl who incorporated his was really stunned afterwards at the incredible loving wise being that he is and her heart pumped energy out for a long time afterwards as it had been so activated by him.

Besides him that night Mary Magdaline came in to talk with us, one womans Higher Self and a group of very high level Beings that we could never sort out - they describe themselves as Sentient Filliments of Light.

All of it was very real, very amazing, the Filliment of Light bBeings made us laugh and laugh with their witty humor and Mary Magdaline was like a chirping song bird of delight - so chatty and light hearted but also with amazingly salient wisdom for us.
We were high for hours from the very high frequency's these differnt Being came in with and filled the room so palpably with.

I truely am very thankful to have been blessed in my life with so many real expereinces, and that I can relax into knowing it is true deep in my heart instead of my brain having to 'judge' whether it was a scam or not.

Originally Posted by Ankhesenamun

I used to go to a Spiritualist Church for a while, here in the UK. I didn't come across even one genuine medium there. Even the "president" of the church was a fake. I once witnessed a thing where they tried to contact spirits and asked the spirits to move glasses to give answers. It was obvious they were moving the glasses around themselves.

I'm disappointed to hear about your experience in a Spiritualist church but any church is, of course, only as good as those who attend regularly and the abilities of individuals will vary considerably. I'm unable to comment on your experiences other than to say that's not typical of what you should find, especially the aspect of moving glasses - that's not 'proper' mediumship, something anyone ought to be able to expect in a Spiritualist church unless, of course, your demonstration was being given for different reasons. Perhaps too late now but the right thing to do would have been to discuss your concerns with the president of that church. If you didn't get a satisfactory response then checking with the SNU (if it's a member) would have been possible.

I had originally contacted the president because I wanted spiritual advice as I was suffering lifelong extreme bad luck and wanted to know what is going on (this situation is still continuing by the way).

Spiritual advice isn't something that should be given by a medium UNLESS important information was being obtained to be passed on to you from a spirit source identifiable by yourself and whom you would trust. If you had wanted psychic reading and personal counselling it should have been explained in what way they would be provided.

I presented her with my life story, which I had typed out, and she was absolutely shocked - she had never come across someone with such extreme bad luck before. She then proceeded to say nothing other than "just think positively"! Great help - not! (by the way I have always been a very positive person). If that's the best she could come up with instead of investigating what's going on - then I have to say she has proven herself to be a fake.

I'm sure she was shocked as you've described and she might not have known what to say but if she presents herself as a medium that's hardly surprising - anyone is likely to have been shocked to hear about chronic misfortune. As for being a fake, exactly what was she being fake about? I acknowledge her response was far from helpful but she is only human after all and if she has no relevant experience she should just have said so.

She also did not remember having met me before, despite this only being a few years ago. Another time I presented her with a person that was of an extremely evil nature - which she failed to recognize. Some medium!

Exactly what do you think a medium should be? Perfect memory, perfect ability to do anything and everything? Perhaps your expectations were somewhat unrealistic?

Being psychic myself, I was bitterly disappointed with everybody at the Spiritualist Church. The whole organization exists only to make money, and to keep the "president" and some other high up folks in their jobs.

Being psychic doesn't necessarily mean you have a scrap of understanding about mediumship. As for money-making or jobs, well many churches struggle to keep going and as for jobs well they don't pay much in a local church! There are few "high up" jobs and being president ain't one of 'em.

Genuine mediums do exist, but they don't go round advertizing themselves or running to Spiritualist Churches. I wouldn't go to such a church again. It was disappointing because I had hoped to find spiritual people there, but all I encountered were a bunch of fakes and weirdos.

I'm disappointed you didn't find the help you wanted but based on what you've said it seems to me your expectations were somewhat unrealistic - that's a shame. Genuine mediums do indeed exist and some have been serving Spiritualist churches for years and making few charges for their time - but that's a different issue. As for the folk you'll find there, well as I wrote earlier it's gonna depend on who goes - the congregation isn't vetted for spirituality. And unless you first define fakery you may not have experienced it hence the folk you met weren't necessarily fakes. Weirdos, maybe, but this world has many weirdos doing weird things and many more are likely to be found outside of Spiritualist churches rather than inside them!

[Lynn]

Hello

Like all things that are said to be able to be "taught" this is not always the case. While I do feel that we all have this ability in our "Soul Chart" I do not feel that we all open to this ability in every lifetime in.

Like all things there are good and not good in all professions out there, even with Dr's at times they do not "hear" the patient and something happens.

We too are given lessons that we might not understand in a path that seems to take us down the dark night of the soul so to speak and at times we might never fully get the meaning but its there for a reason.

Its like the passing of my Dad when I was only 25 and planning my wedding. I was like this is so not fair, but the reason was there so many years later some 25 years later. A Medium had told me life can be cut short early with family at times, but nothing more was added to that. I was 18 when I got this reading from her. I feel she touched on my Dad's passing.

I too was told I would be with but "one" man in my life and would have three kids late in life (noting I was told by a specialist both me and the man I was with "could never have kids" at 21. If I had fully taken any of this to heart and fully claimed that energy I might still be in the negative life path I had.

Its a guideline that is given by any reader nothing is carved in stone, as we look at stone and how it can be eroded over time, its the same with our life path's there are others in our path that can bring on a change in that path.

I have been so put "under the bus" so to speak for doing the work I do for nothing for FREE for the most part by those that claim to make a "living" from doing this work. I am good enough to walk with the best of them, and have had that path offered to me. Its not a path I choose to take, that spot light never felt right to me.

So many things how me that I have walked an honest life path, this site is one of them, I have been here since Feb 2007 and over all that time I have offered of myself freely to its members. I have seen so many come and go, live out their lives at times and pass over. I have been here to help one's so on the edge of life find a life path. From that edge of ending things to finding family. I met my husband here, yes a second man in my life path. Without the first dying (though a part of me still wonders on why his life path continues). Yet it is not up to an individual to hold judgement why we have trial by jury.

The Church is in a place of great struggles in so many places, when I was in England so many are abandoned or made into something different but as they hold a graveyard with them they can not be removed.

We are in times where we have to work more and harder to keep life a float, where our time is at times work time. I do have to wonder on the path that will come to those "false profits" when their end of life comes. To take money for the purpose of making money, is not right, but too they might actually feel they are the real deal.

I love to go to the fairs that are about and have readers willing to take my money from me and not sense from me I am a Psychic/Medium. Some refuse to read me, but to not say why, they will move me onto another reader. Honesty is the best policy in life.

We all have with us a good sense of intuition and if we open to that we will find that many times we have been pre warned no to try a path, but too we do and we learn from it not to be burned again.

Lynn

[soulforce]

Originally Posted by Serenity69

Most of the messages received at my local Spiritualist Church were wrong

This was within a period of 6 months

Only one medium stood out giving messages to everybody in 5 minute segments

She told me something that only me, my dad and my stepmother knew

Anyone had the same experience?

I've experience some interesting feedback. Things I have no way of validating. The way I see it mediums are spiritual interpreters. They try and figure out what the spirit is communicating like a language interpreter. If they get it wrong they could be misinterpreting the message. Hence the messages they're getting are clear but the medium may lack the understanding to interpret it to the client correctly.

I have a saying that Spirit chooses their mediums. A lot of people think they can train themselves to become professional mediums but the strongest mediums were born that way. I think we all can obtain a level of clairsentience but will we all become good mediums? No. It's like believing everyone was born to be professional pianist.

There are some people who are naturally gifted at spiritual interpretation and it's rare.

[SerendipityLizard]

My code for what I judge as a reliable source — whether a spirit or someone alive — is whether their advice works.

If it works, then they’re right. If it doesn’t work then they’re wrong. Simple as that. This is exactly why I think people who think intuition is higher than logic are in the wrong path. They’re equal in my view

Experimentation allows us to know which sources of intuition are reliable. Not every source of information from everyday human beings are equal. So why do people react differently with mediums and spirit guides?

People are very strange sometimes to me.

Originally Posted by SerendipityLizard

People are very strange sometimes to me.

only sometimes? Then you're lucky - it's always for me!

[Dargor]

I think mediums are most of the time wrong and untrustworthy. So far none of them really impresessed me except a very few, but even those few ones are questionable. Also, if any medium offers help for a payment that automatically marks them as a fraud because if I could help someone I'd do it for free.