Anyone experience consciousness without self?

[Justaname]

The ego, or thoughts, are the lower self, the ego. What overlooks it, with its moral values and concepts, is the superego. It is possible to witness a consciousness with neither of the selves, which is true reality. This happened to me. It taught me that there is no separate self, that there is no "real you".

I think that no cause is worth suffering for, because nobody ever dies, and that it's impossible to hurt or help anyone. When I do things, I do things from a place of ease.

There is no free will because every thought you think is the result of something else. Whether it's genetics, past happenings, or neuronal firing due to specific chemical or electrical activity.

One can act on lower impulses, or delay gratification by relaxing the primitive, lower part of the brain, and act on things like ideas. But without an idea, a person would not act.

We are not separate from nature, and we never will be. To think that we are special is toxic ideology. Death puts even the most influential people in their place.

[FallingLeaves]

Originally Posted by Justaname

The ego, or thoughts, are the lower self, the ego. What overlooks it, with its moral values and concepts, is the superego. It is possible to witness a consciousness with neither of the selves, which is true reality. This happened to me. It taught me that there is no separate self, that there is no "real you".

I think that no cause is worth suffering for, because nobody ever dies, and that it's impossible to hurt or help anyone. When I do things, I do things from a place of ease.

There is no free will because every thought you think is the result of something else. Whether it's genetics, past happenings, or neuronal firing due to specific chemical or electrical activity.

One can act on lower impulses, or delay gratification by relaxing the primitive, lower part of the brain, and act on things like ideas. But without an idea, a person would not act.

We are not separate from nature, and we never will be. To think that we are special is toxic ideology. Death puts even the most influential people in their place.

you can't have it both ways, you can't have 'real' values and yet claim there is no free will.

because if there is no such thing as free will, then none of the other values you have espoused herein actually matter. Because, the presence or absence of every last one of them is dictated by something that happened previously. As is the fact you are saying meaningless words (they are meaningless because they are completely dictated by what happened before rather than any volition you might have)

[Justaname]

Originally Posted by FallingLeaves

you can't have it both ways, you can't have 'real' values and yet claim there is no free will.

because if there is no such thing as free will, then none of the other values you have espoused herein actually matter. Because, the presence or absence of every last one of them is dictated by something that happened previously. As is the fact you are saying meaningless words (they are meaningless because they are completely dictated by what happened before rather than any volition you might have)

Values are what my higher self values. However, what my higher self values is based on what it experienced in the past. And furthermore, the things that people value, such as world peace, do not matter to the universe. They matter to people.

I let my higher self try to do good things, but I'm aware that they only matter to my higher self, and maybe other selves, other people.

[Unseeking Seeker]

Is what you are saying that across the awareness frequency spectrum with which we are enabled, we, when our attention is at the higher are not the same self when we choose to engage at the lower?