The Christ Consciousness

[Seawolf]

Originally Posted by psychoslice

I like what you said, "its your religion", that is so true, true religion is your own inner experience, not someone else's, that would be second hand. When we all follow the same religion and believe in the same stories we can never grow, we stay stagnat and quite frankly stink lol.

You've got the essence of the New Age belief system down pretty solid yourself, and seem very adamant in what you say, without much room for compromise or deviation. I wouldn't be so quick to judge others who are just as rigid, but who have a different spirituality.

There are different ways of spirituality out there. Interfaith is understanding the different kinds out there, not trying to combine them all into one belief system, or blindly trying to combine them into our own belief system. That's more along the lines of Syncretism, which is much different than Interfaith.

[psychoslice]

Originally Posted by Seawolf

You've got the essence of the New Age belief system down pretty solid yourself, and seem very adamant in what you say, without much room for compromise or deviation. I wouldn't be so quick to judge others who are just as rigid, but who have a different spirituality.

There are different ways of spirituality out there. Interfaith is understanding the different kinds out there, not trying to combine them all into one belief system, or blindly trying to combine them into our own belief system. That's more along the lines of Syncretism, which is much different than Interfaith.

What I said is what I said, if it bothers someone, then that's their problem, I have no problem either way.

[psychoslice]

Originally Posted by Seawolf

Yes I understand that is a foundational New Age belief, which is why it's a little difficult to have a discussion about it here. But I understand people don't want to question their beliefs because they're part of who you are.

And how sad that is.

[Seawolf]

Originally Posted by psychoslice

And how sad that is.

I wouldn't say it's sad because we all do it in one way or another, but when it involves our view of other religions beside our own it can be sad when it turns abusive or aggressive. I think understanding others and ourselves erases hate. Instead of contempt towards 'them' which is whatever religion we are against, we can have knowledge if we desire which will 'magically' erase our hate. The popular opinion against religion doesn't contain that understanding, it has an image of the enemy that isn't based on real knowledge.

[psychoslice]

Originally Posted by Seawolf

I wouldn't say it's sad because we all do it in one way or another, but when it involves our view of other religions beside our own it can be sad when it turns abusive or aggressive. I think understanding others and ourselves erases hate. Instead of contempt towards 'them' which is whatever religion we are against, we can have knowledge if we desire which will 'magically' erase our hate. The popular opinion against religion doesn't contain that understanding, it has an image of the enemy that isn't based on real knowledge.

Yes I agree, but that doesn't mean I have to respect others religion or beliefs systems which I don't, as long as they keep it to their selves that's fine with me, it gets on my goat when I see this happening and therefore I will voice my opinion, which to me is fare enough.

[Seawolf]

Originally Posted by psychoslice

Yes I agree, but that doesn't mean I have to respect others religion or beliefs systems which I don't, as long as they keep it to their selves that's fine with me, it gets on my goat when I see this happening and therefore I will voice my opinion, which to me is fare enough.

You don't 'have' to do anything. Understanding creates respect of follow humans though if we desire it. Harboring resentment towards others is stifling to spirituality as well, I believe. How spiritual can a person really be who hates a religion different than their own? Yet the New Age is constantly putting down Christianity. Hate is never a good basis for a religion. It seems to be a reflection of Western society, struggling to find spirituality and doing anything it can to find it, including degrading others.

[psychoslice]

Originally Posted by Seawolf

You don't 'have' to do anything. Understanding creates respect of follow humans though if we desire it. Harboring resentment towards others is stifling to spirituality as well, I believe. How spiritual can a person really be who hates a religion different than their own? Yet the New Age is constantly putting down Christianity. Hate is never a good basis for a religion. It seems to be a reflection of Western society, struggling to find spirituality and doing anything it can to find it, including degrading others.

That's true, I don't hate the people of religion, but I sure do hate their silly beliefs systems, and their backward thinking.

Originally Posted by Seawolf

You don't 'have' to do anything. Understanding creates respect of follow humans though if we desire it. Harboring resentment towards others is stifling to spirituality as well, I believe. How spiritual can a person really be who hates a religion different than their own? Yet the New Age is constantly putting down Christianity. Hate is never a good basis for a religion. It seems to be a reflection of Western society, struggling to find spirituality and doing anything it can to find it, including degrading others.

Seawolf, the word "hate" is always a big part of any dialogue that you have.. One can not like a religion, but that does not mean that one hates that religion... Everyone who is not religious is not necessarily "new age"... Yet you cling to this view on a consistent basis.. I will always speak to what I, personally, feel is wrong regardless if it religious, new age or whatever..If it is not based in/on love, it is wrong and I will speak out... ie--the religious conservatives who booed an injured military veteran off the stage during a town meeting down in Texas because he was gay...wrong, disgusting and despicable yet they were Jesus freaks.....Go figure..

[Seawolf]

Originally Posted by Juanita

Seawolf, the word "hate" is always a big part of any dialogue that you have.. One can not like a religion, but that does not mean that one hates that religion... Everyone who is not religious is not necessarily "new age"... Yet you cling to this view on a consistent basis.. I will always speak to what I, personally, feel is wrong regardless if it religious, new age or whatever..If it is not based in/on love, it is wrong and I will speak out... ie--the religious conservatives who booed an injured military veteran off the stage during a town meeting down in Texas because he was gay...wrong, disgusting and despicable yet they were Jesus freaks.....Go figure..

"Hate speech is, outside the law, communication that vilifies a person or a group based on discrimination against that person or group. "

Just because a group hates, does that mean you should do the same against them? Are we supposed to follow an 'eye for an eye'? It's your choice to forgive, no one is saying you have to. But if you want depth in your spiritual walk, it's a good idea to try to shed prejudices.

[Seawolf]

Originally Posted by psychoslice

That's true, I don't hate the people of religion, but I sure do hate their silly beliefs systems, and their backward thinking.

Hate the sin but love the sinner? Haha I remember that and always thought it sounded off.

There's no reason to be afraid to face our own prejudices, that's part of the whole problem, we are afraid to admit anything 'taboo' like hate since we're imposed standards in society to live up to, and we feel ashamed if we don't appear to follow it. Just like people who are prejudiced against blacks here in the US can't admit that they have hate, it's the same with the spiritual crowd when it comes to 'religion'. They will talk about religion all the time like it's the worse thing in the world, but call it hate to their face and they will deny it up and down. That's because we don't want to let go of our hate, so we pretend it doesn't exist. Add to that the fear of it in our society and the denial embeds even deeper. It's nothing to be afraid of though. Facing ourselves is the hardest thing to do in life but it's the most freeing.

We don't have to afraid to call a spade a spade, we can be fearless if we choose to despite society's pull towards fakeness. Go against the programming. Take responsibility for an emotion that all humans have, and we can begin to understand ourselves and others.