why are Buddhists so...

[jonesboy]

Originally Posted by sky123

Seriously did you read it properly ????????

I said the Sangha was a Tibetan Tradition...... did you notice the word TRADITION..... so as there are more than one School/Lineage etc: in Tibetan Buddhism where does my post imply I refered to ALL TIBETAN TRADITIONS being cultish??????
Do not use ' Falsehoods '

Oh a broad generalization of some Tibetan tradition.

That makes it all ok.

Thanks.

[Gem]

Originally Posted by jonesboy

Breath meditation was around before the Buddha. A very early version of Buddhist meditation was the meditation on death, the death of your body, of visualizing it, seeing it, being it and not fearing it. Death is natural as well.

Yes that is outlined in the satipatthana sutta as well.

It wasn't breath meditation that changed India, that changed people from Bhramaism to follow the Buddha. It wasn't breath meditation that helped to create Hinduism.

Everyone was already breathing, anyway.

It was the depth of the Buddha's realization. It is that depth and the teachings that help others achieve it that make up Buddhism.

Well, Buddhism is essentially the dhamma according to Gotama.

Also when doing spiritual techniques the posture, the little movements all have an impact and can really increase the effectiveness of a particular technique. So the first thing is to teach the proper way of doing a technique and then of course one is there to help explain what someone is experiencing and helping them along the way.

The techniques are powerful, life changing and why it is best done under skilled, knowledgeable guidance rather than to go off on your own and possibly really hurting yourself.

It's the art of purification and it it alludes to that sort of motive.

[jonesboy]

Originally Posted by Gem

Yes that is outlined in the satipatthana sutta as well.



Everyone was already breathing, anyway.



Well, Buddhism is essentially the dhamma according to Gotama.



It's the art of purification and it it alludes to that sort of motive.

I agree breathe meditation is some good stuff. I am just saying there is more good stuff that you can do as well.

[Gem]

Originally Posted by jonesboy

I agree breathe meditation is some good stuff. I am just saying there is more good stuff that you can do as well.

Yes there are lots of things to do in regards to the how... which is fine, as there are nuances to practice method which are better practically.

If people want a method, then I suggest breath awareness would be the place to begin. It is OK to simply feel yourself breathing, but the breath awareness called 'anapana sati' is quite a nuanced practice. I learned it in long hours of retreat, continually refining its subtlety. If people want to talk about this particular approach, I can discuss the 'way' to practice in some depth to cover what in Buddhist lexicon is called 'samma samadhi'. I doubt that conversation will be possible in this forum space, though.

[jonesboy]

Originally Posted by Gem

Yes there are lots of things to do in regards to the how... which is fine, as there are nuances to practice method which are better practically.

If people want a method, then I suggest breath awareness would be the place to begin. It is OK to simply feel yourself breathing, but the breath awareness called 'anapana sati' is quite a nuanced practice. I learned it in long hours of retreat, continually refining its subtlety. If people want to talk about this particular approach, I can discuss the 'way' to practice in some depth to cover what in Buddhist lexicon is called 'samma samadhi'. I doubt that conversation will be possible in this forum space, though.

Go for it.

You have had positive input before.

[sky]

Originally Posted by Gem

Yes there are lots of things to do in regards to the how... which is fine, as there are nuances to practice method which are better practically.

If people want a method, then I suggest breath awareness would be the place to begin. It is OK to simply feel yourself breathing, but the breath awareness called 'anapana sati' is quite a nuanced practice. I learned it in long hours of retreat, continually refining its subtlety. If people want to talk about this particular approach, I can discuss the 'way' to practice in some depth to cover what in Buddhist lexicon is called 'samma samadhi'. I doubt that conversation will be possible in this forum space, though.

Yes please, I am interested.
I sometimes substitute Qigong with Anapanasati or Mahasati, it's all good....

[Shaunc]

Breath awareness is the first style of meditation technique that I learned from Theravada monks from the Thai forrest tradition. I was taught to concentrate on the breath while focussing on the word "buddho". This word is broken up into two syllables with "bood" used on the inhale and "dho" on the exhale. That was over 20 years ago.
Since then I've changed traditions but still use the same meditation technique except I've changed the word "buddho" for "Amida".

[Gem]

Originally Posted by Shaunc

Breath awareness is the first style of meditation technique that I learned from Theravada monks from the Thai forrest tradition. I was taught to concentrate on the breath while focussing on the word "buddho". This word is broken up into two syllables with "bood" used on the inhale and "dho" on the exhale. That was over 20 years ago.
Since then I've changed traditions but still use the same meditation technique except I've changed the word "buddho" for "Amida".

Why are such verbalisations included?

[Gem]

Originally Posted by sky123

Yes please, I am interested.
I sometimes substitute Qigong with Anapanasati or Mahasati, it's all good....

anapana sati is specific to breath and is practiced sitting very still. In that sense the 'how' is different to moving meditation, but the essence of 'being aware' is the same as in moving meditations, though there is no intention to move internal energy as there might be in qigong.

[sky]

Originally Posted by Gem

anapana sati is specific to breath and is practiced sitting very still. In that sense the 'how' is different to moving meditation, but the essence of 'being aware' is the same as in moving meditations, though there is no intention to move internal energy as there might be in qigong.

Yes sitting very still is a substitute for Qigong when your feeling lazy