meditation or awake trance ?

[youngers1810]

Hi all
since my awakening i have tried meditation with not much success.
Saying that if i am watching tv or on computer game i notice spirits that are around me better at the corner of my eye.

If im laying in bed or just close my eyes briefly i get people shown to me or objects and symbols when my eyes are shut and im not asleep.

It seems to me that these are the only that spirits contact me .

If i focus on a object in a room long enough spirits or symbols start to appear better i dont want to scare anyone when i go into a awake trance what should i do as i would be sat there stairing into space but that when the spirits seem to materialize ? .

Is it possible to be in a awake trance to fully recieve a messege from the spirits and symbols rather than to try meditation ?.

[wstein]

Meditation is a trance with a focus. Being 'awake' changes one's perception of experience, so just because meditation is not like before, does not necessarily mean you are not meditating.

You may not know its possible to be in a meditative state indefinitely. Your experiences suggest that you are in some kind of 'mystical' state already (may not be meditation).

Being 'awake' and being in a 'trance' are separate things. Though obviously they combine in some very interesting ways.

If you are getting the messages (from spirits) you desire, I would not worry about the fine points of meditation vs. trances. The point is that you are in a state that allows what you want.

[youngers1810]

Its like if i focus on a object that what works best for me colours of the atea start to change .
Its almost like the spirits and higher beings want me to do it that way mystical staye.
I could stare into space for ages so maybe i train myself on that.

Can any spirit drain ones energy if being cuddled by a spirit ?

[wstein]

Originally Posted by youngers1810

Its like if i focus on a object that what works best for me colours of the atea start to change .
Its almost like the spirits and higher beings want me to do it that way mystical staye.
I could stare into space for ages so maybe i train myself on that.

You've encountered (possibly developed) a new (to you) way of 'Seeing'. IS there a question about this?

Originally Posted by youngers1810

Can any spirit drain ones energy if being cuddled by a spirit ?

Anything you are in direct contact with can drain/infuse your energy (or you its). No intention or permission is required (for either party).

[youngers1810]

Can spirits physically attack you even if you dont sense nothing bad ?.

[wstein]

Originally Posted by youngers1810

Can spirits physically attack you even if you dont sense nothing bad ?.

Yes.

Beings that feed on energy usually have some techniques to evade detection, no different than any predator.

Many are not all that aware about such things. They can miss even the blatant. Are you a little more tired some mornings, do you always know why?

Its no different than microbes attacking your body. It happens everyday, did you notice? Unless you got ill from it, probably not.

[youngers1810]

Refering to a earlier post about focusing at a object and then seeing spirits better.

I was wondering does anyone else able to do this while awake ? .
as when i focus the imeaditate area changes colour then the spirits start to appear better and get static noise in ears.

[Miss Hepburn]

I have a friend that "zones out" a lot...ha, I wave my hand in front
of her and she'll say, Oh sorry, you were an American Indian, male....and just walk away.
Or comment....There were a lot of spooks around....dressed like the 1700s...
What is that? Victorian?

She says these things so non chalantly.
But, otherwise I am no help.

My meditation has nothing to do with spirits....I want
nothing to do with them....that is MY "secret place" with God.
(Psalm 91....so scat anybody else...!)