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19-01-2014, 06:49 AM
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All of them, every species of animal.
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19-01-2014, 07:34 AM
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Ascender
Join Date: Dec 2012
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If we decide not to keep them in captivity, not perform for human amusement, use them in research, leave their habitats alone...it is still US making that decision FOR THEM.
Nonhuman persons should be able to make decisions and negotiate for themselves. That means we need to translate dolphin chirrups. We already know that dolphins have names amongst themselves. We need to be able to communicate to them, "Do you like performing at sea world?"
So, we stop making them perform if they answer, "No, I hate it and would rather be out in the wild" and we understand it.
But we should be protecting habitats anyway. The ethical question isn't, "Can they think reasonably and logically?" but "Can they suffer?"
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19-01-2014, 09:36 AM
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Master
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Striding the hedge
Posts: 4,301
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Ecthalion
All of them, every species of animal.
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Agree absolutely. Possibly our biggest crime was selective breeding to "fix" animals into a form that we required - especially in dogs. Some breeders are now attempting to retro-breed back to the originals in an effort to remove all the genetic deficiencies that we introduced.
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