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Old 20-09-2018, 07:32 PM
Chanine Chanine is offline
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Hi Chanine - welcome to the forum.

It depends on what you are referring to by ‘mind’ - there are various definitions of what mind is and what it consists of. I suspect you mean it as a synonym for the thought-stream in the head.

This thought-stream is a byproduct of the organism’s capacity to use language and employ abstract and analytical thinking. The key is to simply see it for what it is in the happening of the moment - in this way, the happening of the moment (the is-ness) comes out on top - as it always was/is.

Hello moondance

The reference was thoughts and the watcher...sometimes the watcher seems harsher and the isness seems warmer or stronger and weaker...god dam it...it's all the same...it's been a funny day. I watched my mind hanging on today by the skin of his teeth making jumbled up chopped up sounds..and I just watched and smiled x
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Old 20-09-2018, 08:25 PM
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How do we actually experience the mind? Simply one thought arising out of nothing and returning back into nothing. Then another thought arises out of that nothingness. And so on.

So rest in that space between thoughts and let the space expand.

Peace.
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Old 21-09-2018, 09:37 AM
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How do we actually experience the mind? Simply one thought arising out of nothing and returning back into nothing. Then another thought arises out of that nothingness. And so on.

So rest in that space between thoughts and let the space expand.

Peace.

Resting in that space takes zero effort that's the irony behind creation
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Old 21-09-2018, 10:08 AM
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The reference was thoughts and the watcher...
I began becoming aware of awareness (sounds so funny to anyone not on a spiritual path, I know),
when I found out about the book, "The Direct Means To Eternal Bliss" , Michael Langford.
Lol, It did give me a headache after a couple weeks! Why?
I guess it was just so new to my brains wiring!

It is unlike meditation which is very simple and peaceful for me.
But, I must say after much effort to refocus the mind .
..I seemed as tho,
(trying to describe it), love started to seep through in me from nowhere.
Ha!

There is a pdf available. He started out being into Ramana Maharshi and Nisargadatta...
and wrote the book to help others with their ideas.
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Old 21-09-2018, 10:15 AM
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I suppose he referred to it when he held his lighter in his hand in order to explain his thoughts .
To be aware of the forest is likened to being aware of the lighter's flame .
Oh, I see the lighter is a lighter,
not the Lighter's flame as another word for God's flame ...
a Bic lighter's flame. Ha, I get it. Thanks
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Old 21-09-2018, 11:20 AM
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Mind is
Ego is
Be-ness is
Who is it within then that senses distrurbing ripples? 🙏🏼
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Old 21-09-2018, 10:08 PM
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.I seemed as tho..love started to seep through in me

Love seeps, love grows, love sinks without a ripple...once I reached the imaginary end..love was waiting...beautiful place miss h
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Old 21-09-2018, 11:38 PM
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The mind will not go silent as long as there is a "I" living in is-ness. There is no "I"...only is-ness. Said another way - you are it, you don't live in it.

I am new to the forum, hope I am not intruding into the thread but wanted to chime in on a wonderful thread and this post.

"I" can't help but note how necessary an "I' is to even being here to post. "I" agree with what is said and yet the "I" speaks up as if to play a game with itself.

How is it that I can agree that there is no I? Isn't it like saying I was never here when seemingly I was/ I am?

Illustratively, if all is...call it white...what is the mark I see? How is it even seen in all 'white'?

At times I think I understand the mystery and other times I don't. It's as if knowledge itself is illusive, not hard fact (whatever THAT is).
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Old 22-09-2018, 12:48 PM
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I am new to the forum, hope I am not intruding into the thread but wanted to chime in on a wonderful thread and this post.

"I" can't help but note how necessary an "I' is to even being here to post. "I" agree with what is said and yet the "I" speaks up as if to play a game with itself.

How is it that I can agree that there is no I? Isn't it like saying I was never here when seemingly I was/ I am?

Illustratively, if all is...call it white...what is the mark I see? How is it even seen in all 'white'?

At times I think I understand the mystery and other times I don't. It's as if knowledge itself is illusive, not hard fact (whatever THAT is).

I is so beautifully coloured...absolutely amazing to be part of and to watch but the reality is the silent fish resting beneath the waves
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Old 22-09-2018, 06:48 PM
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I am new to the forum, hope I am not intruding into the thread but wanted to chime in on a wonderful thread and this post.

"I" can't help but note how necessary an "I' is to even being here to post. "I" agree with what is said and yet the "I" speaks up as if to play a game with itself.

How is it that I can agree that there is no I? Isn't it like saying I was never here when seemingly I was/ I am?

Illustratively, if all is...call it white...what is the mark I see? How is it even seen in all 'white'?

At times I think I understand the mystery and other times I don't. It's as if knowledge itself is illusive, not hard fact (whatever THAT is).

Hi Aster - a reasonable question, well articulated.

Hard to express but I’ll have a go.

There is no ‘I’ or self entity. But there can be ‘I’/self activity.

Right now there is typing - typing is happening. In this present immediacy fingers are typing, thoughts are arising, there is the muffled sound of a TV in the next room, the light is starting to fade. There is the unfolding matrix of body-mind processes… but no ‘I’ entity in all of this. There is no typing entity except as a concept in the head. The happening of typing (and the narrative in the head) is a complex play or patterning of an inexplicable source… the whole… THIS…

Or we could set the bar a little further forward and say that there is the transient activity of an ‘I’ sense which is apparently typing. So in this version, the transient activity of an intermittent self, apparently typing, is the play of source.

Some stress the former, some the latter, but either way, the key is the realisation of the absolute sovereignty of source (oneness, reality, Life, tao, awareness, This…)
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