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Old 26-12-2017, 12:27 PM
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binge eating disorder... not ever gna go away?!!!!!!!

im a fail. i dont remember the last time in my life where i havent been on a diet. i dont remember a time where ov been clean eating for more than 5 days only to relapse for months of binge eating.the cycle goes: restriction-feeling deprived-mindless eating over eating and binging things i dont even like,when not hungry also but having this extreme need of eating anything- shame-restriction-binge..
its getting out of control. i gained 60 pounds first year of college which made me do a sleeve surgery hoping that id stop the obsession with food.
when im on clean eating i obsess about food so much i am always planning what i wanna eat and looking at the clock waiting to eat. i still can eat less than the average person but a fe onths from now my stomach will def expand more.im hopeless and hate myself. im an embarrassment with no will power . people dont believe me anymore when i say im on a diet. hell i dont believe me.i know that no surgery can fix my binge eating expcept my mind. i dont get it why i am such a slave to food. food addiction where it pains me every time o have a craving and cant relax until i satisfy it. god i hate food as much as i love it.
am i that hopeless ?
why cant o stick on a diet for at least a month.
dw i went to dietiticians but even that was not helpful at all. i cant stick to a diet. if i do and i crack that code that will be a miracle.

please any tips on how to STICK ON A DIET FOR GOOD
what to do when an extremely intense craving hits?
thank u for ir thoughts
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Old 27-12-2017, 12:41 AM
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If you truly want it, try hypnosis, self-hypnosis, affirmations (like Abraham-Hicks 17 seconds at the wake up method). Surely, raw willpower works too, as it worked in my case.

Remember: you diet harder for a limited time to lose weight faster, then you have to change your life habits (eating and exercising) forever, to not fall off the wagon.
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Old 27-12-2017, 02:29 AM
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im a fail. i dont remember the last time in my life where i havent been on a diet. i dont remember a time where ov been clean eating for more than 5 days only to relapse for months of binge eating.the cycle goes: restriction-feeling deprived-mindless eating over eating and binging things i dont even like,when not hungry also but having this extreme need of eating anything- shame-restriction-binge..
its getting out of control. i gained 60 pounds first year of college which made me do a sleeve surgery hoping that id stop the obsession with food.
when im on clean eating i obsess about food so much i am always planning what i wanna eat and looking at the clock waiting to eat. i still can eat less than the average person but a fe onths from now my stomach will def expand more.im hopeless and hate myself. im an embarrassment with no will power . people dont believe me anymore when i say im on a diet. hell i dont believe me.i know that no surgery can fix my binge eating expcept my mind. i dont get it why i am such a slave to food. food addiction where it pains me every time o have a craving and cant relax until i satisfy it. god i hate food as much as i love it.
am i that hopeless ?
why cant o stick on a diet for at least a month.
dw i went to dietiticians but even that was not helpful at all. i cant stick to a diet. if i do and i crack that code that will be a miracle.

please any tips on how to STICK ON A DIET FOR GOOD
what to do when an extremely intense craving hits?
thank u for ir thoughts

When we go on a diet for ever, that's not a diet in the usual sense of being on a diet; it's a transformation in lifestyle. This is a big picture whole person change, which is no simple thing as it is somewhat different according to each individual.

On the whole, restriction diets don't work. They have decent logic, the right calorie and nutrient profile, but the subjective aspect where the person needs sheer will power to do it is why they mostly fail to produce long term outcomes. In short, will power does not work because when exerting oneself so willfully, a person inevitably becomes too tired to carry on.

With comfort eating/binging, the behaviour is a compultion, so the person knows full well it's not for the best, and it is detrimental, but they can't stop, and it's usually attributed to emotional issues which the person manages through food, but as you say, although it may provide a temporary fix, the guilt aspects are a consequence, and it's not long before the next compulsion to binge comes on. Of course you already know that all too well. It may be an idea to consult a professional who specialises in eating disorders who may assist you to resolve the 'underlying cause' of the compulsion.

If you can go to realise that the relationship with food is more like a symptom, and addressing the symptom does not address the cause, then you might be able to give more intention to discovering why, what causes, the symptomatic behaviour. Then you start to go to a deeper level of the overall issue, perhaps uncover the root cause, and with such new insight into it all, be empowered to transform as a person, and so make the overall lifestyle change that truly expresses yourself.
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Old 27-12-2017, 09:56 AM
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thank you guys for the insight. i will try self hypnosis and i hope that will work! after new years ill start clean because the temptations are too much now.

iv tried seeing professionals but where i lived there werent professionals who specialize in eating disorders that i know off. yeah i know im an emotional eater and while i hoped id only eat when im sad. i also eat when im happy... hah yeah.. i have to have more will power. ill try to figure it out somehow.
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Old 27-12-2017, 12:22 PM
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thank you guys for the insight. i will try self hypnosis and i hope that will work! after new years ill start clean because the temptations are too much now.

iv tried seeing professionals but where i lived there werent professionals who specialize in eating disorders that i know off. yeah i know im an emotional eater and while i hoped id only eat when im sad. i also eat when im happy... hah yeah.. i have to have more will power. ill try to figure it out somehow.
thank u for ir rrepliess :)

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Old 27-12-2017, 05:10 PM
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im a fail. i dont remember the last time in my life where i havent been on a diet. i dont remember a time where ov been clean eating for more than 5 days only to relapse for months of binge eating.the cycle goes: restriction-feeling deprived-mindless eating over eating and binging things i dont even like,when not hungry also but having this extreme need of eating anything- shame-restriction-binge..
its getting out of control. i gained 60 pounds first year of college which made me do a sleeve surgery hoping that id stop the obsession with food.
when im on clean eating i obsess about food so much i am always planning what i wanna eat and looking at the clock waiting to eat. i still can eat less than the average person but a fe onths from now my stomach will def expand more.im hopeless and hate myself. im an embarrassment with no will power . people dont believe me anymore when i say im on a diet. hell i dont believe me.i know that no surgery can fix my binge eating expcept my mind. i dont get it why i am such a slave to food. food addiction where it pains me every time o have a craving and cant relax until i satisfy it. god i hate food as much as i love it.
am i that hopeless ?
why cant o stick on a diet for at least a month.
dw i went to dietiticians but even that was not helpful at all. i cant stick to a diet. if i do and i crack that code that will be a miracle.

please any tips on how to STICK ON A DIET FOR GOOD
what to do when an extremely intense craving hits?
thank u for ir thoughts

I sent you a very lengthy response about my own battle with binge eating and the 'reasoning' behind the binging for myself. I got logged off and when I logged back in, my response was gone. Sorry about that. My reasoning was I was very unhappy at that time in my life because there were things that bothered me that I couldn't resolve or control, so I turned to food and gained 25 pounds. I eventually got help and even kept a food diary to which I'd jot down what I was feeling during a particular binge. It might help. I mistakenly took a mind-altering prescribed medication that turned me into a zombie, but I lost all the weight and some, becoming anorexic. Fifteen years later I'm a healthy weight and eat what I want with portion control and awareness. I only eat when I'm hungry now. My life turned completely around. Finding a professional that specializes in eating disorders is a very good idea. Best of luck to you in finding a way to reach mindfulness about the 'whys' for the binging.
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Old 27-12-2017, 06:24 PM
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I've struggled my whole life off and on with weight issues, and now I am finding that the Intermittent Fasting (IF) combined with low carb/high fat works best. In early June of this year, I started IF and LC/HF and it took about 2-3 mos. to lose about 20 pounds. Go to YouTube and look for Butter Bob, Gravity Training, and the UK show called Supersize vs. Superskinny - very good stuff.

And Gem's right - it is best to call these Life style changes and not 'diets'.
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Old 27-12-2017, 06:24 PM
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I sent you a very lengthy response about my own battle with binge eating and the 'reasoning' behind the binging for myself. I got logged off and when I logged back in, my response was gone. Sorry about that. My reasoning was I was very unhappy at that time in my life because there were things that bothered me that I couldn't resolve or control, so I turned to food and gained 25 pounds. I eventually got help and even kept a food diary to which I'd jot down what I was feeling during a particular binge. It might help. I mistakenly took a mind-altering prescribed medication that turned me into a zombie, but I lost all the weight and some, becoming anorexic. Fifteen years later I'm a healthy weight and eat what I want with portion control and awareness. I only eat when I'm hungry now. My life turned completely around. Finding a professional that specializes in eating disorders is a very good idea. Best of luck to you in finding a way to reach mindfulness about the 'whys' for the binging.


haha yeah it sucks getting logged off !! wouldv loved to hear more bout it. i guess you understand me. yeah im pretty sure im an emotional eater and i can give you a hundred reasons why i turn to food for comfort. but i hate myself after i binge eat and dont feel good when i eat junk food. so im hoping next time i think of how bad i feel after the good moment. i have yet to eat only when im hungry. AND i need to find a way to dissolve the craving when it hits cse when it does it's the worst.
im going to enjoy the holiday(iv been on holiday since i gave birth for almost 2 years now yikes but whatves. ) ill start clean on new years i suppose haha.
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Old 27-12-2017, 07:45 PM
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I am in the same boat as you to a point but I will not let myself totally blimp out. I once weighed 250 and that meant if I didn't do something then I had to find a scale that could weigh my eventually fatter self.

I am an emotional eater, I eat when I am bored, I think of eating when I am not hungry. I often wonder is this hunger really an unsatisfied hunger for something else besides food but food is used to satisfy myself?

Years ago when I got to 250 I said if I don't do something then I will end up like some friends that weighed around 300. I was not going to allow myself to pig out like that. So I said have at it. I only ate once a day between 4 and 5 P.M and other than that it was no calorie drinks or water. I didn't eat starches, breads, or much dairy. I would spend maybe half hour exercising such as running in place, sit ups, pushups, jumping jacks, squat thrusts and other simple exercises. I hate exercising. In about two months I had gotten down to 195 lbs. A year later I did it again and got that 195 down to 162 lbs.

A couple years ago I saw my reflection in a door glass and I thought dude you are one fatso again, I weighed 235LBS. and my 38 waist pants were getting real tight. I was not about to go to 40 waist pants.

I went on a diet very similar to a Keto diet. I made all my own meals and snacks. Absolutely no sugar except natural sugars in the food itself. I was eating about every three hours but the portions were about hand size. I was never hungry or felt hungry. I ate no breads or dairy products. I read food labels and if it had high fructose corn syrup or artificial flavoring it went back on the shelf. I repeat I was never hungry because I was eating about every three hours. I was NOT doing any exercising at all.

The weight started coming off really quick. People started asking was I sick that I was losing so much weight. They said I needed to buy some clothes that fit then. In about 2 months I went from 235 down to 182. I was actually able to get into size 34 w pants I hadn't worn in ten years.

Yeah it's real easy to go off the wagon and back with the sugar and starches especially around the holidays. I had held around 190 for a few years and then OOPS back on the sugar and sweets. I am now around 220 because of that and I will again starting the 1st of the year get the fat off again by getting off the sugars.

My greatest motivator to lose weight is seeing super lardo people and not wanting to look like them. Well that and my man boobs and preg looking gut.

No matter what we want we have to have a line drawn and a motivator or forget about it. After smoking 2-3 packs a day I finally had to decide did I want to die due to passing out from coughing or did I want to live by just giving up cigarettes. I smoked for another year but didn't inhale. When I finally did quit I had basically no withdraws because I didn't have squat of nicotine in my body since I didn't inhale for so long. That was 8 years ago and I have no desire to smoke to this day.

We can do practically anything we want if we want it bad enough. A guy once asked me how was me and my friend. Yep when I carry enough body mass around for more than one person I often feel like someone is crammed under my skin with me.

Starving ourselves doesn't work but eating smaller portions and cutting out the sugars does work. If all we do is cut out the added sugars and sugar substitutes we will see the fat disappear. Try it for one month and I bet you will see a thinner you. Do it for two months and you will wonder where that friend went from under your skin. Eating or drinking anything that has other than natural food sugar is your dead end to losing fat. Sugar is just as addictive as any bad habit.
You can do it if you have had enough of what you hate. You don't hate yourself or your eating. You hate being fat and eating bad all the time to feed it.
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Old 27-12-2017, 08:18 PM
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Weight control:

1. Physics: balance of calorie intake with calorie spending

2: Psyche: willpower, and/or subconscious enforcing

It is widely known that 3200 calories approximate 1 pound of fat. A calorie is a calorie, no matter it's source, no matter how you spend it. To know your in/out balance you have to actively monitor it (calorie counting, at least the ballpark).

In case you don't have the willpower, suggestions / affirmations while in a light hypnotic trance do wonders.

You have to want to do it: to control your weight. The main reason: your health.
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