Cause of existence

[Jeremy Bong]

They're something which is not directly perceptive by human. We cannot see the pulling force but we can see the dropping of the apple from an apple tree that's earth gravity. This is not directly perceptive but by the help of something else ---- the dropping of an object to assume that the earth gravity is existing. Before Newton's discovered of it no one knows about gravity. Or pulling force of two objects.

The magnetic field of the earth can only be seen by the use of compass. So we can't see the true magnetic field. We can't see love but we can feel that love is existing between family members and couples and they are valid. And nobody can measure the tendency of the degree of love.

If we see a movie but the degree of how good the movie can be variable from one person to the other. So the perception of thing is beautiful or not can be different.

So is the existence of Gods they exist when my third eye can see but other who can't see will say no, didn't have Gods. So the directly perceptive is not 100% can be used as a standard of stating the truth of existent of everything. That's sometimes it fails to see the existence of many things.

[Ground]

Originally Posted by Bohdiyana

You believe ones conditioning is as real as a physical object?
So then re-birth is real to a Buddhist according to your logic.

How often do I have to tell you that I do not believe anything?
I do apply language as language. I do not apply language as truth.

Something is real when it can function and both the agent and the function can be directly perceived and what can be directly perceived does exist.

Therefore re-birth is neither real nor existent.

[sky]

In 2011, the Chinese government enacted a law that prohibited Tibetan lamas or monks from reincarnating without government approval. The Chinese government wants to have the right to approve reincarnations of living Buddhas or senior religious figures in Tibetan Buddhism. Let’s for a moment forget the ridiculousness to trying to approve who may or may not reincarnate themselves, and focus instead on the high probability that this was merely a ploy to allow the Chinese to chose the next Dalai Lama, someone they could control.


This made me laugh, how are they going to approve ?????

[Ground]

Originally Posted by sky123

In 2011, the Chinese government enacted a law that prohibited Tibetan lamas or monks from reincarnating without government approval. The Chinese government wants to have the right to approve reincarnations of living Buddhas or senior religious figures in Tibetan Buddhism. Let’s for a moment forget the ridiculousness to trying to approve who may or may not reincarnate themselves, and focus instead on the high probability that this was merely a ploy to allow the Chinese to chose the next Dalai Lama, someone they could control.


This made me laugh, how are they going to approve ?????

The so called 'approval of reincarnations' is nothing other than an appointment.

[markings]

Originally Posted by Ground

The so called 'approval of reincarnations' is nothing other than an appointment.

The question is how much is the old process of selecting a new Dalai Lama another form of appointment?

IMO it doesn't matter much who or how a young boy is appointed for that specific position, the final outcome will depend much more on who brings him up and educates him.

[Ground]

Originally Posted by markings

The question is how much is the old process of selecting a new Dalai Lama another form of appointment?

IMO it doesn't matter much who or how a young boy is appointed for that specific position, the final outcome will depend much more on who brings him up and educates him.

But that's actually the reason for the appointment: those who are authorized to appoint are those who determine his education. It just would not make sense and could arouse people's suspicion if the appointers would approve themselves as right reincarnation

[sky]

Originally Posted by Ground

The so called 'approval of reincarnations' is nothing other than an appointment.

This would not work and is laughable because you would end up with two Dalai Lamas.

[Ground]

Originally Posted by sky123

This would not work and is laughable because you would end up with two Dalai Lamas.

That'd be great. But in those modern times one should be a lady.

[sky]

Originally Posted by Ground

That'd be great. But in those modern times one should be a lady.

Yes I have put my name down, then I can lead them all down the wrong path

[jonesboy]

Having no beliefs is a belief in itself.

That is not a Buddhist view. Buddhism has many beliefs.. It is more about the attachment to them.