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Old 07-04-2017, 03:01 PM
MaryMagdaQueenofQueens MaryMagdaQueenofQueens is offline
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Dear yoga, Please become easier...

Yoga is an important part of mine and my husbands life. A day that begins with Yoga is often a day well spent and what follows is motivation and self discipline. But the woah of lack of self control is real and the pain its creating in my mind AND body is begining to lessen my faith in myself.


Has any one here struggled with the whole, "i dont wannnnnnaaaaa" thing and if so, how did you over come it....

Some support could really help,
thanks so much.
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Old 07-04-2017, 11:16 PM
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> Has any one here struggled with the whole, "i dont wannnnnnaaaaa" thing
Yes was struggling right now.

> and if so, how did you over come it....
By getting motivated by reading your post. We're in this together. Let's bear the pain together. Focus and center yourself.
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Old 11-04-2017, 07:02 AM
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Quite often here in the past yes, more so when I felt like I wouldn't get through, couldn't meet the space more readily. It took a great deal of self healing and work to build to being more open in myself and not just through yoga.

I find with yoga for myself, I am mainly dealing with the physical aspects of my body that are more "loose" of other factors. So for me yoga is a natural discipline space where I actually enjoy the challenges of moving deeper into my body, without resistance.

Perhaps working on the pain body in another way might loosen things up for you aside from yoga? So then, entering into the yoga space your not facing a wall of resistance..that might feel insurmountable, but less contained to move more freely.
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Old 11-04-2017, 06:18 PM
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Yoga should feel good, period! Otherwise you are doing something wrong in your practice, and need to back out of the way you are approaching it. What I think you might be bumping against is your self imposed limited of how much goodness you will allow yourself to feel, and some kinds of yoga will not solve this for you, because they are as rigid as your self imposed limit haha. First principle you might work on is softness:

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Here’s your softness test. When you move your middle, does the rest of your body—your arms and legs—go easily along for the ride? Or are you working hard to be where you are, so moving your middle has no effect on the rest of you? If it’s the first, you’re ready to move. If it’s the second, take a few deep breaths, put a little easy bend in your joints, and give your hips another wiggle to see where you are now. Always make sure your body is soft and happily movable before you try to move. Moving becomes really easy and really fun this way.
Have you tried Strala yoga?
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Old 13-04-2017, 01:59 PM
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Yoga should feel good, period! Otherwise you are doing something wrong in your practice, and need to back out of the way you are approaching it. What I think you might be bumping against is your self imposed limited of how much goodness you will allow yourself to feel, and some kinds of yoga will not solve this for you, because they are as rigid as your self imposed limit haha. First principle you might work on is softness:


Have you tried Strala yoga?

Yoga can also feel bad if you aren't consistent, regular and your body is in really a bad place.

I've had a bad back for decades. My yoga practise which I began about 10 years ago, has been irregular and in the last year even more so. And the sore back persisted throughout.

But about two months ago I started being totally consistent on three times per week and with Eccentrics stretching on the days in between and the change has been incredible.

Where it was only in the last five or so minutes of my yoga workout that the eternal kink got worked out and I felt 'good', it has now gotten to where the kink is hardly there right in my warm up and it just gets better from there.

So consistency and regularity is essential, and especially as you get older. It's amazing how quickly a 62 year old can tighten up (and not in a good way!)
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Old 13-04-2017, 03:08 PM
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Yoga can also feel bad if you aren't consistent, regular and your body is in really a bad place.

Yoga can only feel bad if you are doing it wrong. My practice for personal reasons are quite irregular, yet throughout my last two practices I consistently get better throughout the practice no matter how bad I felt at the start, I get more energized, I feel better and so on... not worn out as I did with my "old" practice. If your body is in a bad place you should start out more gentle, and move from there. Maybe Tai Chi is a better place to start. Maybe doing more all-fours if the (lower) back is sore and so on. It feels bad because we are impatient with where we are, and pushes too hard to get to a place where it feels better, but that never works... it only make the journey to feeling good take longer.
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Old 13-04-2017, 11:41 PM
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Yoga can only feel bad if you are doing it wrong. My practice for personal reasons are quite irregular, yet throughout my last two practices I consistently get better throughout the practice no matter how bad I felt at the start, I get more energized, I feel better and so on... not worn out as I did with my "old" practice. If your body is in a bad place you should start out more gentle, and move from there. Maybe Tai Chi is a better place to start. Maybe doing more all-fours if the (lower) back is sore and so on. It feels bad because we are impatient with where we are, and pushes too hard to get to a place where it feels better, but that never works... it only make the journey to feeling good take longer.

Oh sure, I don't deny that you can get better even if you aren't consistent, it's just that it takes longer to get there. And a person can only do what they're body is capable of. If your tendons are too tight, you're not going to be able to touch your toes and your body positioning might be awful, but if that's all you can do, that's all you can do. Wouldn't you agree that the more regularly you do it, the faster you can progress and the more centred and balanced your positions will be? Which in turn means your focus can be less on 'how' you're doing the position so much as you can put your attention more fully on the good way you're feeling your body work.

When I first got really consistent about two months ago, I really noticed how I felt like I could feel my tissue in my arms and such kind of 'uncrinkling' like a dried chamois does as I would stretch it out. Over the next half hour or so, continual motion meant that by the time I was done, the weird crinkly feeling was gone. At the same time by the point where I was finishing up, the awful grinding in my back had let go and I felt good. Now with two months of 3x per week plus the Essentrics, and I'm feeling great from start to finish most days. I'm 62 by the way so at this age, everything tightens up a lot quicker and that becomes part of the challenge, keeping the joints and tissue lubricated for better efficiency.

My body is totally off balance with shoulders and hips at different heights, one leg is longer than the other, and my spine looks like the 's' in the word spine, so yeah, I was probably doing it 'all wrong in the beginning', but eventually I started loosening up enough so that even I was more balanced.

I think yoga is a marvellous place for anyone to start if they just go as far as they are able and no further in the bends and such or actually, even better if a person were to start out with a practise called Essentrics which is a program by a lady who trained as a classical ballet dancer. Its more a program of systematic stretching and in ways that we don't normally move our bodies so that joints that get compacted over time are opened up.



I'm trying to turn my daughter on to that because she doesn't like yoga much and I think that would maybe accomplish the same thing for her.
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Old 15-04-2017, 07:01 PM
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Wouldn't you agree that the more regularly you do it, the faster you can progress and the more centred and balanced your positions will be?

I agree that a regular practice of listening to what you need, and responding to it is by far the best practice. I just pointed out that in the moments where there are pain you have to back off and find another approach. I remember a gentle or relaxed class during my yoga training where earlier that day had done a very graceful drop out of a handstand (at least it felt graceful, and my yoga partner said it was like i fell in slow motion haha). My lower back was hurting a bit from the fall, and I was very insecure going in to that practice, and soon in how found places I couldn't really move without pushing through. So I settled back and softened my approach, and i ended up being a fantastic class where my pain subsided, and I found more freedom in my movement.

What kind of yoga are you doing, because maybe there are other styles that suits your daughter better.
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Old 11-04-2017, 09:17 PM
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I think exercise can cause pain if it's not being done regularly.
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Old 12-04-2017, 11:02 AM
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I think exercise can cause pain if it's not being done regularly.

I attend a few yoga classes with a few different teachers, its interesting to me how I notice the differences in "how to move yourself into and with the move" can be amongst them. I notice the one who is slower and more aware of each person, conscious of their posture, corrects more freely. I really relate to her way. I find it slower, but a more clear and deeper strengthening.
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