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Old 21-04-2020, 11:05 AM
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Truth

If seekers are concerned that any solution they may find to the spiritual search must be the truth, this places a considerable hurdle in front of them and a very insecure basis for any enlightenment they think they have obtained. There may always be something hidden that contradicts the truth you think you have discovered, and when it appears, will shatter the enlightenment you thought you had achieved. Resonance with a solution can be enough if the idea that one can securely know the truth has been trancended so that one has escaped this truth trap and it is no longer a requirement that the solution resonated with has to be the truth.
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Old 21-04-2020, 07:05 PM
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Your post about "truth" reminds of:
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Student: Dr. Einstein, Aren't these the same questions as last year's [physics] final exam?
Albert Einstein: Yes. But this year the answers are different.
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Old 21-04-2020, 08:58 PM
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If seekers are concerned that any solution they may find to the spiritual search must be the truth, this places a considerable hurdle in front of them and a very insecure basis for any enlightenment they think they have obtained. There may always be something hidden that contradicts the truth you think you have discovered, and when it appears, will shatter the enlightenment you thought you had achieved. Resonance with a solution can be enough if the idea that one can securely know the truth has been trancended so that one has escaped this truth trap and it is no longer a requirement that the solution resonated with has to be the truth.

So very true....as far as I can see.
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Old 22-04-2020, 01:12 AM
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If seekers are concerned that any solution they may find to the spiritual search must be the truth, this places a considerable hurdle in front of them and a very insecure basis for any enlightenment they think they have obtained. There may always be something hidden that contradicts the truth you think you have discovered, and when it appears, will shatter the enlightenment you thought you had achieved. Resonance with a solution can be enough if the idea that one can securely know the truth has been trancended so that one has escaped this truth trap and it is no longer a requirement that the solution resonated with has to be the truth.

lol sometimes this isn't as easy as it seems. The need to be 'right' is terribly compelling and once you involve with it the quest for truth it is very hard to stear away... even though I would agree now that what you have said is correct I wouldn't have been able to when I had my OCD on...
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Old 22-04-2020, 01:29 AM
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lol sometimes this isn't as easy as it seems. The need to be 'right' is terribly compelling and once you involve with it the quest for truth it is very hard to stear away... even though I would agree now that what you have said is correct I wouldn't have been able to when I had my OCD on...

Yes. What may change perspective could be something heard or read, but most likely is being confronted by something that was hidden from us at the time we thought we had discovered truth.
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Old 22-04-2020, 02:08 AM
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The formulation "something that was hidden from us" sounds like a poor excuse for righteousness proven wrong.
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Old 22-04-2020, 07:10 AM
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The formulation "something that was hidden from us" sounds like a poor excuse for righteousness proven wrong.

The point is that there is no proof (truth) that can be securely known so if it appeared that righteousness had been proved wrong, it could be proved right again by the next hidden thing revealed, and on and on it goes. The point is that its not reliable as the basis of ones position/realization.
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Old 22-04-2020, 07:29 AM
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The more I know the less I know. There's a quote about that. They said it better!
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Old 22-04-2020, 07:46 AM
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The more I know the less I know. There's a quote about that. They said it better!

Yet you may resonate with something said or read, a gut feeling perhaps. Very different from knowing a proof.
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Old 22-04-2020, 07:53 AM
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Yet you may resonate with something said or read, a gut feeling perhaps. Very different from knowing a proof.

I agree. And that's ok.

Found the quote, lol.

The more you know, the more you know you don't know - Aristotle
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