Lovers of themselves

[sky]

Originally Posted by SimpleMan

2 Timothy 3:1-5 This know also, that in the last days perilous times shall come.For men shall be lovers of their own selves, covetous, boasters, proud, blasphemers, disobedient to parents, unthankful, unholy,
Without natural affection, trucebreakers, false accusers, incontinent, fierce, despisers of those that are good,
Traitors, heady, highminded, lovers of pleasures more than lovers of God;
Having a form of godliness, but denying the power thereof: from such turn away.

Are we not living in these times? Nowadays, it's all about "ME, ME, ME", the "SELF".

"In August, Treasurer Scott Morrison warned that “Australia has a generation growing up expecting government handouts”.

Researchers have labelled this the “Me Generation”. Some even say we are facing a “me, me, me epidemic”." - https://theconversation.com/its-all-...d-chores-66134

"Millennials: The Me Me Me Generation" - http://time.com/247/millennials-the-...me-generation/

Just two sources.Now, the new age movement, the #metoo movement, the feminist movement, the lgbt movement and I can go and on and on promote the very same thing, it's all about me, I am the universe, I am the...and so on...

Why shouldn't you love yourself SM?

[Honza]

Originally Posted by sky123

Why shouldn't you love yourself SM?

I don't think SM is saying we ought not love ourselves; but actually is saying that to ONLY love yourself leads to selfishness and harm.

Jesus implied that people ought to love themselves as well as others. He also implied that loving God is the most important.

The emphasis these days is to accept the self love and do away with loving others and God.

[Honza]

Originally Posted by Shivani Devi

Just by the by, I have ALWAYS disagreed with the whole "I AM" and "I am the Universe" as it is a very egocentric stance to take IMHO.

I am just totally happy and fulfilled knowing that "God IS" and what "I AM" is just a miniscule, insignificant part OF it and I would never seek it to be any other way.

THIS! It is how I feel too.

[Shivani Devi]

Originally Posted by Zigzangle

What evidence is there any god exists, no one has ever come up with any that is verifiable.

Isn't the fact of us existing on a blue chunk of rock floating through a vacuum of space with like a four trillion to one probability that any of us should even BE here at all proof enough?

However, for everything else, kindly refer to the post I made in this thread prior to this one.

God reveals himself only to those who have an open heart and mind..who don't seek any proof or justification for it.

[Zigzangle]

Originally Posted by Shivani Devi

Isn't the fact of us existing on a blue chunk of rock floating through a vacuum of space with like a four trillion to one probability that any of us should even BE here at all proof enough?

However, for everything else, kindly refer to the post I made in this thread prior to this one.

God reveals himself only to those who have an open heart and mind..who don't seek any proof or justification for it.

Of course that is not evidence for the existence of any god!

[Miss Hepburn]

Originally Posted by Shivani Devi

Just by the by, I have ALWAYS disagreed with the whole "I AM" and "I am the Universe",
as it is a very egocentric stance to take IMHO.

Unless you have had a direct experience of that very thing...that
the entire Universe is within you...in fact,
take a cell individually...as you could a cutting of a hologram bookmark ...the cell and the cutting hold
the entirety of the Universe or the bookmark within itself.
If one has not experienced that ...than it is just some cosmically, far-fetched bunch of philosophical words for someone.
"Huh? Holographic Universe? God is me? I am God? Huh?"

[Altair]

Originally Posted by SimpleMan

I was sure someone is going to say that, there's a big connection between the feminist and the #meetoo, and after all, why #metoo and not victim of abuse? It all started with some ladies then everything changed when men appeared and told their stories.Division, division and more division, the people from hollywood know what they do.Show that women are abused and change their minds towards men, I don't say it never happened but why now, why now.....LGBT is part of "their" plan, there's no serious man or woman that will go almost naked or in some "strange" outfits seeking understanding from the other people.

Feminist are all about destroying families.

You don't know a lot of women, and you don't talk with them much either. And you don't talk with trans or gay people either. I can tell..
You see a grand conspiracy because you're unhappy and you blame it on someone else and on entire movements. Don't do that, it's not good for you.

[SimpleMan]

Originally Posted by Altair

You don't know a lot of women, and you don't talk with them much either. And you don't talk with trans or gay people either. I can tell..
You see a grand conspiracy because you're unhappy and you blame it on someone else and on entire movements. Don't do that, it's not good for you.

You are wrong, you don't know me but I tell you, I am happy, happier than ever, I was stuck in depression for three years and now I am free of it and without any help from pills, but with the help of God.I turned back to Him and all my addictions and problems are totally gone.I am so happy that sometimes I praise God with all my being, is this inner joy that not many can understand without coming to God....

A feminist told me the feminist versions of the Bible.I studied a little bit about all these movements.

[SimpleMan]

Originally Posted by Shivani Devi

Isn't the fact of us existing on a blue chunk of rock floating through a vacuum of space with like a four trillion to one probability that any of us should even BE here at all proof enough?

However, for everything else, kindly refer to the post I made in this thread prior to this one.

God reveals himself only to those who have an open heart and mind..who don't seek any proof or justification for it.

I agree with you that every creation has a creator, it's impossible for something to create itself from nothing, it's against nature and against science, nobody can even believe such things... Of course there is a creator, I call Him, God, Jesus Christ, the whole universe was created through Him and for Him.

John 1:3 All things were made by him; and without him was not any thing made that was made.

[SimpleMan]

Originally Posted by Honza

I don't think SM is saying we ought not love ourselves; but actually is saying that to ONLY love yourself leads to selfishness and harm.

Jesus implied that people ought to love themselves as well as others. He also implied that loving God is the most important.

The emphasis these days is to accept the self love and do away with loving others and God.

You are right Honza, you got my message and there is a ton of proof that this is happening in our current days, how could the writers of the Bible would have known such things without God Himself telling them? Praise God!!

This world we live in at this moment fullfils almost all Jesus's words, it never happened before, never something like this.