Sathya Sai Baba, the Man = Human; All Human Avatars are HUMAN

[Vinayaka]

Originally Posted by peteyzen

God comes as and when he is needed. Does Vaishnavism not include kalki Avatar Vinyaka?
I can only speak for myself, but my experience of Baba and mother meera is that they are the real thing, both are Avatars. I have benefited massively from their grace. It is shame that so many will miss out on that direct experience because people who have no real experience of either, put them off by their comments.

Indeed Kalki is yet to come, according to Vaishnava schools. What I meant to say was that Krishna was the last one to be here. But yes, there is a tenth yet to come.

As for any modern day saints (including Satya Sai, Mother Meera, and a huge long list of others) traditionally they are not avatars. An avatar is God incarnate, and there would only be one at a time. Most Hindus view great Gurus, Saints, Swamis, etc as just that. Great Realised Souls, but to put 'Avatar' status on them would be untraditional. An avatara, for example, would be recognised by EVERYONE, something like the supposed second coming of Christ. There would be little debate at all.

This is not to belittle one's experiences with their Guru. Lots of devotees take pride in their Guru experience and put honorifics like Sri, Sri Sri, HH avatar, etc. on their Gurus.

But coming from a Saiva school, I personally don't believe in avatars at all, as it's not a part of Saivism.

These are just POVs from the various schools, and most of us don't enter debate on it, accepting the right for any person to consider what they want of their Guru.

[George-Ananda]

I am a believer in Satya Sai Baba and went to India to visit his ashram.

It is sad for me to see so many people so eager to hear and spread anything out there bad and negative about Satya Sai Baba.

Certainly if he was a pedophile for example, I would be against Him. But I guess that I have done far more homework on this than those condemners here and believe the reports trace back to people who have become avowed enemies of Satya Sai Baba. How convenient for the enemies to make accusations that are impossible to ever completely disprove because they supposedly happen in private. They have nothing that is out in the open that he can be condemned for.

If Sai Baba is not for you then just let it go and don't try to hurt others that believe unless you know your accusations are fact (and none of us here know that).