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04-06-2013, 06:23 AM
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Haven't posted in this thread for awhile, and will probably leave it on idle after this as well, but came across this and thought I'd post it. Another U.F.O. entering a volcano.
Not able to translate the news anchor, but the footage is interesting (if real). From Mexico, video uploaded May 31st.
http://www.youtube.com/watch?feature...&v=cZdP_49FlIQ
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I feel that this footage is played backwards ??.
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02-09-2014, 03:26 AM
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Watching a video right now on youtube and it occurred to me it might be an idea to unearth this thread and post it here, as I've posted some other old school ufo videos here before. So the following is a 1956 radio interview with Richard Shaver and his publisher of the old sci-fi magazine 'Amazing Stories', Ray Palmer.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wTGYlTXpcpc
What is notable about Shaver, is that he claimed his stories to be true or based on actual events that happened to him. Later Palmer changed Shaver's stories to fiction officially; nonetheless Shaver maintains them as real, and in the interview his publisher supports him with the belief of that claim as well. It was the introduction into the social/mainstream/media consciousness of the idea and contention of the existence of underground alien bases, the first time the concept was suggested to a wider, public audience.
Shaver wrote other stories he also alleged to be based on real personal experiences of his.
So if anyone gives it a listen, let me know what you think. Is Shaver telling the truth? Is he delusional and merely believes he's telling the truth? Is he a writer spinning a good yarn? In other words, a liar? Would be interested to hear others thoughts. I love the old timey, frankness in the way people spoke on the radio back in those days. Tbh I'm only 20 minutes in myself, but they get to it right off the bat.
There is sort of an annoying periodic beep and listening a bit more now, the story/subject matter is getting somewhat disturbing (nothing obscene , it was public radio in the 50's after all) so listener discretion advised if you are sensitive to such things or can't handle the occasional beep, which would be perfectly understandable in either case.
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02-09-2014, 05:09 AM
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Subsequent in depth discussion/analysis on the Shaver mystery on the same radio program (without beeps!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hvWF3ywMzI
Gives further history and context around the Palmer & Shaver (alleged) story.
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02-09-2014, 07:28 PM
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Originally Posted by Deusdrum
Subsequent in depth discussion/analysis on the Shaver mystery on the same radio program (without beeps!)
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=7hvWF3ywMzI
Gives further history and context around the Palmer & Shaver (alleged) story.
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Erm, excuse me buddy but that's pretty shoddy research on your part. First of all, the above interview took place prior to the Shaver interview; but more importantly you are wrong about Shaver being the first to claim the existence of a subterranean race.
The 1871 sci-fi novel; 'Vril, The Power of the Coming Race' (which can be read legally in full, here) http://www.sacred-texts.com/atl/vril/ beat Shaver by several decades.
Maybe leave the history lessons to people who actually know what they're talking about, mkay?
Thhhaaaaannnks.
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02-09-2014, 07:39 PM
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Erm, excuse me buddy but that's pretty shoddy research on your part. First of all, the above interview took place prior to the Shaver interview; but more importantly you are wrong about Shaver being the first to claim the existence of a subterranean race.
The 1871 sci-fi novel; 'Vril, The Power of the Coming Race' (which can be read legally in full, here) http://www.sacred-texts.com/atl/vril/ beat Shaver by several decades.
Maybe leave the history lessons to people who actually know what they're talking about, mkay?
Thhhaaaaannnks.
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Listen pal, no one likes a smug know it all, let alone one that talks to himself on a public forum. (could we not discuss this later in private, please?)
Anyways, here's an old ufo documentary circa 1976 narrated by Rod Sterling, the man from the Twilight Zone, entitled 'It Has Begun.' Also starring Jaques Vallee and Dr. J. Allen Hynek among others. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phsUnYKjpUw
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28-09-2014, 08:59 PM
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Presentation from Sept of this year of Linda Moulton Howe at a MUFON conference about the Rendelsham (sp?) forest incident, including the videotape of a couple hypnosis regression sessions, one of them with the officer witness John Burrows as well as the other guy who's name escapes me atm. John Burrows also comes on as a guest speaker near the end. Personally find this very fascinating.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=tF4Liy1x7k4
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29-09-2014, 06:02 AM
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From the description of vid;
Original air-date: June 18, 1964. This recording is from the KVOS Channel 12 Films, Center for Pacific Northwest Studies, Western Washington University, Bellingham WA 98225-9123.
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=wZbFsFWk__c
News special of some sort about ufos/ "flying saucers" featuring interviewee George Van Tassel and some of his theories re: time machines, apparently.
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30-09-2014, 01:48 AM
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One has to admit, Rendelsham is very compelling.
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30-09-2014, 09:20 AM
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Listen pal, no one likes a smug know it all, let alone one that talks to himself on a public forum. (could we not discuss this later in private, please?)
Anyways, here's an old ufo documentary circa 1976 narrated by Rod Sterling, the man from the Twilight Zone, entitled 'It Has Begun.' Also starring Jaques Vallee and Dr. J. Allen Hynek among others. https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=phsUnYKjpUw
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lol...
I always found the one where the Mexican Air Force follows one to be valid
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01-10-2014, 03:43 AM
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Morpheus yeah the hypnosis sessions in particular got me, the part where he's talking about feeling tingling and the light moving close and far away in an instant, like they were messing with time and space somehow, and the tone of voice in which he spoke got my hair follicles rising. Spooky stuff, and yet endlessly curious/fascinating to me at the same time.
Here are some photos and interpretations of the symbols he saw on the craft that he also (allegedly) sketched down, pictures of the original notepad. http://www.therendleshamforestincident.com/Pictoral_Glyphs.html
Tess pretty sure I saw a bit on that incident on UFO Hunters, seemed legit. Any case with multiple presumably credible witnesses plus radar confirmation are all the more compelling.
Not that I need to be convinced of anything, I know somethings going on in the skies (and elsewhere on Earth) just what that is is where the mystery lies for me.
Btw feel free anyone to add any UFO/Alien news related links or stories to the thread if you feel so inclined. The more the merrier.
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