One of the differences between Christ and I AM.

[sky]

Originally Posted by Honza

"No God is not unwell"...."Change your perception and evil disappears"...."Enlightenment is bliss"....etc.

Haven't a clue what you mean, but not to worry....

[sky]

Originally Posted by Honza

There is a difference between Eastern and Western I AM.

What's the difference?

[Molearner]

Originally Posted by sky123

I AM the Bread of Life (John 6:35, 41, 48, 51); I AM the Light of the World (John 8:12); I AM the Door of the Sheep (John 10:7, 9); I AM the Good Shepherd (John 10:11,14); I AM the Resurrection and the Life (John 11:25); I AM the Way, the Truth and the Life (John 14:6); and I AM the True Vine (John 15:1, 5).

Sky123,

Thanks for posting this.....the 7 I AM statements of Johns gospel. I have often suggested that they can be better understood by parenthetically inserting THE and IS....so they read, for example, the I AM is the bread of life....and so on. It then makes you ponder what the I AM actually means.

[sky]

Originally Posted by Molearner

Sky123,

Thanks for posting this.....the 7 I AM statements of Johns gospel. I have often suggested that they can be better understood by parenthetically inserting THE and IS....so they read, for example, the I AM is the bread of life....and so on. It then makes you ponder what the I AM actually means.

Lovely idea and really does hit deeper

[Honza]

Originally Posted by sky123

What's the difference?

It is like the difference between a full church on a Sunday morning and a solitary figure meditating.

[sky]

Originally Posted by Honza

It is like the difference between a full church on a Sunday morning and a solitary figure meditating.

What you mean is you don't know so you just write gobbledegook.....

[sky]

Originally Posted by Honza

Christ is not only aware of sin, he also actively challenges it and he dislikes it. I AM on the other hand says "what sin?". It says "change your perception and sin disappears".

Sin makes God and Christ feel ill. But I AM is happy with it. I AM is in complete ecstasy and is completely unaware of evil. But God and Christ feel it and it makes them sad.

I AM really annoys me!

' I AM really annoys me ' this may help

John 14:20... At that day ye shall know that I AM in my Father, and ye in me, and I in you.

[Molearner]

Originally Posted by Honza

Christ is not only aware of sin, he also actively challenges it and he dislikes it. I AM on the other hand says "what sin?". It says "change your perception and sin disappears".

Sin makes God and Christ feel ill. But I AM is happy with it. I AM is in complete ecstasy and is completely unaware of evil. But God and Christ feel it and it makes them sad.

I AM really annoys me!

Honza,

It is quite difficult to understand your understanding of the I AM. Over the course of time you have seemed to vacillate in your enthusiasm or lack of enthusiasm for it. Perhaps I am misreading you but what comes across that you are seemingly defining I AM as realization of your self which is ego. Conversely my understanding of the I AM is that it is a realization of God within oneself...….the severing of connection to the ego. Perhaps you could share your understanding of the I AM ? I see it as a dynamic force which signifies a legitimate attempt to re-uniting with God.

[Honza]

Originally Posted by Molearner

Honza,

It is quite difficult to understand your understanding of the I AM. Over the course of time you have seemed to vacillate in your enthusiasm or lack of enthusiasm for it. Perhaps I am misreading you but what comes across that you are seemingly defining I AM as realization of your self which is ego. Conversely my understanding of the I AM is that it is a realization of God within oneself...….the severing of connection to the ego. Perhaps you could share your understanding of the I AM ? I see it as a dynamic force which signifies a legitimate attempt to re-uniting with God.

The two words I AM all started being used by people with one primary purpose; and that is to self-reference oneself. If I was to say "I am" then I would be informing you that "one is", "I exist", "me", "myself" etc.

I AM is a self reference.....

[Honza]

So to continue further....everyone who says God is I AM is stating that God/Reality is a self reference. As opposed to any other kind of reference.