Sticky Questions About Souls

Originally Posted by Chrysaetos

But who is driving the vehicle..?
And to the post above: So there are eight bodies in total. What exactly is the spiritual body?

Cheers.

Hi Chrysaetos,

God /Eternal One is driving the vehicle!

There are actually seven bodies or vehicles with us in an incarnation. When we descend to come into a physical incarnation, depending on what plane we are learning on in the Realms of Light, what plane we have ascended to in expansion of the Spirit, we have to don a denser vehicle for each plane in descenscion or exchange the one we are using for a lighter one on ascension. This has to be done in order to exist on the relevant plane. The Body that we use in a physical incarnation is very dense and our spirit body is very light.

When we incarnate we only bring with us a small part of our spirit, the rest is still in the spirit world. That is why we come as male or female (positive and negative). We are a duality therefore if we incarnate as female we have left our male part of our spirit in the Spiritual Realms, that is why you don't meet your twin soul in an incarnation, because your twin soul is the other part of you. You will no doubt meet incarnate soul mates, which is different, they are others in your soul group that have incarnated to share some of an incarnation with you. If you are a male in this incarnation you have left your female side in the Realms of Light.

The bodies that are surrounding our physical correspond with the Planes that we learn and exist on in our ascension.

Some people call them by other names but I know them as the following:-
Densest and outermost first - Physical, Astral, Lower Mental, Upper Mental, Emotional, Spiritual, Celestial (Divine). These are also all stages of development and ascension. The last four are the innermost and the last three we don't have to incarnate into a physical body, only for special ministerial purposes.

Does that help?

Blessings

grazier

Originally Posted by Shabda

right, i understand, and yes you did say that not all would agree, i wasnt trying to argue either, just forwarding some notions that ive discovered through experiences of my own, but that doesnt make me right either, and it is possible that we both define the soul differently, so i guess i was just putting into words, my understanding of it, thus far, not a big huge disagreement or anything, i hope i didnt offend, i didnt mean to...

Hello Shabda,

No offence is taken, I didn't mean to come across in any other way than one of explanation. I am sorry if I sound gruff, I didn't mean to.

I agree, we are all different and all have different pathways (leading to the same goal however) and we all learn in different ways. How otherwise would the Eternal One experience Himself, there would be no point if we were all clones. There would only be the need for one Soul/Being that way.

We are all correct in our own way, that is the way that we have learned and experienced and it is there for us to share with others and likewise to share others' experiences and learning. That is how we learn and help each other to learn, by putting forward our own experiences. Don't you agree?

That is what these forums are about. There is no argument, it is all sharing.

I am always being told by my nearest and dearest that I come across as a headmistress, I don't mean to, that is just me I am afraid. I am sorry if I seem that way, please forgive me, but as I said it is just me, I can't help it.

I don't like arguments, ill feeling and negativity as it gets one nowhere and upsets all around. So please accept my apologies if I sounded that way.

Blessings

grazier

[Shabda]

Originally Posted by grazier

Hello Shabda,

No offence is taken, I didn't mean to come across in any other way than one of explanation. I am sorry if I sound gruff, I didn't mean to.

I agree, we are all different and all have different pathways (leading to the same goal however) and we all learn in different ways. How otherwise would the Eternal One experience Himself, there would be no point if we were all clones. There would only be the need for one Soul/Being that way.

We are all correct in our own way, that is the way that we have learned and experienced and it is there for us to share with others and likewise to share others' experiences and learning. That is how we learn and help each other to learn, by putting forward our own experiences. Don't you agree?

That is what these forums are about. There is no argument, it is all sharing.

I am always being told by my nearest and dearest that I come across as a headmistress, I don't mean to, that is just me I am afraid. I am sorry if I seem that way, please forgive me, but as I said it is just me, I can't help it.

I don't like arguments, ill feeling and negativity as it gets one nowhere and upsets all around. So please accept my apologies if I sounded that way.

Blessings

grazier

have no fear, all is good~! you didnt offend me in any way, im glad we could share our thoughts on this...

Originally Posted by Shabda

have no fear, all is good~! you didnt offend me in any way, im glad we could share our thoughts on this...

God Bless,

Blessings

grazier

[Shabda]

Originally Posted by grazier

God Bless,

Blessings

grazier

May God Bless You with It's Divine Love...

[Miss Hepburn]

How could someone be gruff that has a little bunny rabbit as an avatar?

[Xan]

Originally Posted by Chrysaetos

But who is driving the vehicle..?

This is an excellent way to put the question, Chrysaetos.

There's only one way to truly know the answer: Looking directly into the driver's seat... and seeing the You who is observing all the experiences, bodies and frequencies that make up your existence... your Consciousness itself, your Awareness.

Here's the first step: Notice that you are aware.


Xan

[7luminaries]

Originally Posted by Xan

The idea that the body evolved as a mechanical process of natural selection and then somehow made the quantum leap to evolving a soul... always struck me as very funny.

In spiritual awakening you begin to experience yourself as soul & spirit - the consciousness and energy that is your essence. Then it becomes clear that this, your true nature, existed before physical existence and endures after it, and is here now within and all around you.

Meditation is the way of true Self discovery, beyond the mind's ideas.


Xan

that's what it is...a quantum leap...but as you say, it's soul and spirit that made "the leap"...pretty risky business...this whole physical existence thing

But despite all the work, I have to say, it's all good!

Peace/blessings,
7L