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15-09-2019, 01:54 AM
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Pathfinder
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How can you say that everything is vibration/energy?
If you know that everything is vibration, how do you know that for sure? Assuming of course it's not just a belief of hearsay.
The point of this post is that I see a lot of people making this claim, yet I always wonder how can I actually know this from my direct experience, have you actually seen that everything is made out of energy? that these words you see on your screen are made out of energy?
not sure if this is the right forum to post this, if not then let me know
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15-09-2019, 01:19 PM
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Master
Join Date: Oct 2010
Location: Lowell, Massachusetts
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Hi,
It is true that this awareness is not logically comprehendable. It does need to be understood through direct experience.
When science can not see energy and its patterns, say with some thing like a quantum lens, then this concept is speculation. Unprovable intellectually speaking.
The majority of us can not see energy and its patterns. So for this group it is a belief. All of us are free to believe what seems best for us.
John
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15-09-2019, 01:55 PM
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Originally Posted by seed321
If you know that everything is vibration, how do you know that for sure? Assuming of course it's not just a belief of hearsay.
The point of this post is that I see a lot of people making this claim, yet I always wonder how can I actually know this from my direct experience, have you actually seen that everything is made out of energy? that these words you see on your screen are made out of energy?
not sure if this is the right forum to post this, if not then let me know
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It is simply a belief produced by scientific experiments and observational that we've read about or learned via other means.
At the end of the day, we are not 100% right about anything. It's all just moving energy, after all.
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15-09-2019, 01:59 PM
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From a biological standpoint,the majority of your body is made up of bouncing.. molecules vibrating. You think your just sitting there, but get a microscope, your body is constantly moving. Refer to Einsteins equation of E = mc2.
Everything moves, constantly vibrating, whether your a person or a spec in the ocean. All the same.
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15-09-2019, 02:15 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John32241
Hi,
It is true that this awareness is not logically comprehendible.
It does need to be understood through direct experience.
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Yes. I have experienced multiple times in the last 4 decades ...all
is vibration, operating on different wavelengths or frequencies.
However, John, I would say it can be easily understood logically, by reading more on quantum physics.
I have joked on forums..."Why, I bet you all actually think you're sitting
on a chair...how can I really talk with you when you think a chair is a chair?"**
Ok for the op, seed321...**It appears to be a chair...in reality it is atoms vibrating at a certain speed, distance apart,
with a certain number of electrons, etc...and at their core (split one and see) they are themselves light.
Your butt is light and the chair is light ...all appearing in this Maya or Illusion, this Dream.
Look into what Electron microscopes see.
(Oh, what Clover and Proteus said....lol! Pays to read first!)
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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15-09-2019, 03:11 PM
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Master
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Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
However, John, I would say it can be easily understood logically, by reading more on quantum physics.
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Hi,
My experience and my understaning is that it is Not that easy to understand. That the human intellect will frame what we are able to comprehend to fit our desired beliefs.
John
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15-09-2019, 04:09 PM
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Quote:
Originally Posted by John32241
Hi,
My experience and my understanding is that it is Not that easy to understand. That the human intellect will frame what we are
able to comprehend to fit our desired beliefs.
John
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Ok.
But with all the proven, repeated lab studies and experiments ....don't you think it's pretty much black and white?
Split an atom, look thru an Electron microscope and nothing is as it seems.
I would love if children had a whole diff view of the world if shown things discovered by
using quantum physics at an early age.
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Prepare yourself for the coming astral journey of death by daily riding in the balloon of God-perception.
Through delusion you are perceiving yourself as a bundle of flesh and bones, which at best is a nest of troubles.
Meditate unceasingly, that you may quickly behold yourself as the Infinite Essence, free from every form of misery. ~Paramahansa's Guru's Guru.
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15-09-2019, 06:12 PM
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Pathfinder
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So we still have to rely on science (which doesn't hold any objective truth and is constantly evolving and debunking itself) to know that everything is vibration and not our own direct experience?
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15-09-2019, 10:40 PM
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Master
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Quote:
Originally Posted by Miss Hepburn
Ok.
But with all the proven, repeated lab studies and experiments ....don't you think it's pretty much black and white?
Split an atom, look thru an Electron microscope and nothing is as it seems.
I would love if children had a whole diff view of the world if shown things discovered by
using quantum physics at an early age.
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The next generation will be far better equipped to appreciate how life works than we were.
John
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16-09-2019, 03:53 PM
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Maybe if you change the word vibration to movement.
Ask then "is movement real ?"
Everything that moves has a vibration.
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