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24-10-2017, 06:54 AM
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It can seem for some that having beliefs and knowings hold some kinda devaluation pertaining to one's spiritual status.
It seems at times that it is best to float around in an unknown state and hold no beliefs.
Under scrutiny it is impossible for floaters to not know or believe when engaging in the waking world.
What is true and what is not pertaining what is believed or not or what you don't know or not is just another belief that is known.
x daz x
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24-10-2017, 07:06 AM
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Knowing is fact, belief is assumption.
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24-10-2017, 09:52 AM
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I tend toward the more subtle ways of wisdom...
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24-10-2017, 10:49 AM
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Originally Posted by Gem
I tend toward the more subtle ways of wisdom...
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Gem, how do you know wisdom as opposed to knowing or perception?
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24-10-2017, 11:00 AM
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Originally Posted by CrystalSong
Faith, leads to Belief, Belief leads to Knowing.
I see them as stepping stones on a path, each leads a little further down the road. :)
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They are stepping stones but you have to be open minded to start the journey. Ill try not to complicate it to much.
But we all have different paths and different ways of getting the point.
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24-10-2017, 01:26 PM
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If you look at things in the overall picture, theres almost an endless list of beliefs when talking about "spiritual" belifes. Most people only believe what they know. Since i started using this site I've learned about so many different beliefs and religions across world. All of that helped me to really realize how different we all are and helped to open my mind. What people believe typically is just what they know no matter how the words are arranged, i am just speaking from my experience, i am sure we all had different experiences.
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24-10-2017, 03:13 PM
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Originally Posted by Kerubiel
You can have so much faith that you know it will be so. What do you think?
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Hi,
My understanding is that this can be accomplished.
We are dealing with our intellect and its perceptions when we deal with belief vs knowing. For example if you want a high degree of life extension and in our society very few live much past that age of 100, what is the process of evolving your beliefs so that you can create that desire as a physical reality?
You will know you can do this after you have done it. Then it is no longer just a belief.
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24-10-2017, 11:10 PM
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Originally Posted by hallow
They are stepping stones but you have to be open minded to start the journey. Ill try not to complicate it to much.
But we all have different paths and different ways of getting the point.
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Hi there hallow :) I'm guessing you've not heard of the Cosmic 2X4? Sometimes one doesn't need to be open minded at all, or even know about it, or suspect there is such a thing and still it can happen.....like a 2X4 across the head. Just saying. |
25-10-2017, 12:52 AM
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Originally Posted by naturesflow
Gem, how do you know wisdom as opposed to knowing or perception?
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I guess, if knowledge is what you learn, then wisdom is what you grow.
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25-10-2017, 02:47 AM
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Originally Posted by CrystalSong
Hi there hallow :) I'm guessing you've not heard of the Cosmic 2X4? Sometimes one doesn't need to be open minded at all, or even know about it, or suspect there is such a thing and still it can happen.....like a 2X4 across the head. Just saying.
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no i haven't heard about it, just tryed to look it up and could only find sizes for lumber. Lol 
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